Minutes of the 6th February 2020 Teleconference     Austin-1003 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 9th February 2020


Attendees:
    Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Joerg Schilling, FOKUS Fraunhofer
    Eric Ackermann, HPI, University of Potsdam
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, Open Group OR
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group

Apologies
    Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev.

* General news 

None

* Outstanding actions

(Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes -
to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes
from 13th June 2019 and earlier)

Bug 1254: "asynchronous list" description uses "command" instead of "AND-OR list" OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1254
Action: Joerg to investigate how his shell behaves.

Bug 700 - Nick to raise this issue with the C committee
Bug 713 - Nick to raise with the C committee.
Bug 739 - Nick to raise with the C committee.
Bug 1216 - Eric to ask if The Open Group is willing to sponsor this interface, referencing bug note 4478.


* Current Business

Bug 1314: Should file stat uniqueness proposition be moved to normative parts?       Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1314

This item is tagged for TC3-2008

On page 392 line 13342 section <sys/stat.h>, change:
    The st_ino and st_dev fields taken together uniquely identify
    the file within the system.
to:
    A file identity is uniquely determined by the combination of
    st_dev and st_ino. At any given time in a system, distinct files
    shall have distinct file identities; hard links to the same
    file shall have the same file identity. Over time, these file
    identities can be reused for different files. For example, the
    st_ino value can be reused after the last link to a file is
    unlinked and the space occupied by the file has been freed and
    the st_dev value associated with a file system can be reused
    if that file system is detached ("unmounted") and another is
    attached ("mounted").

On page 2197 line 70223 section unlink(), add the following:
    When the space occupied by the file has been freed, the file's
    serial number (st_ino), and therefore the file identity (see
    [xref to <sys/stat.h>]), shall become available for reuse.


Bug 267: time (keyword)    Re-opened
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=267#c4771

This item has been reopened bug based on the notes added in 2016,
discussion on the mailing list following those notes, and the fact
that bug 0000789 has since been resolved with changes to 2.9.2
Pipelines (adding pipefail) which clash with those described here.


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