Minutes of the 21st September 2020 Teleconference     Austin-1065 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 23rd September 2020

Attendees:
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
    Joerg Schilling, FOKUS Fraunhofer
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
    Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev.
    Richard Hansen
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group 
   

Apologies:
    Eric Ackermann, HPI, University of Potsdam
    Tom Thompson, IEEE

* General news 

None.


* Outstanding actions

(Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes -
to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes
from 13th June 2019 and earlier)

Bug 1254: "asynchronous list" description uses "command" instead of "AND-OR list" OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1254
Action: Joerg to investigate how his shell behaves.

Bug 700 - Nick to raise this issue with the C committee
Bug 713 - Nick to raise with the C committee.
Bug 739 - Nick to raise with the C committee.


* Current Business

Bug 0000697: Adding of a getdirentries() function 
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=697

This has a separate etherpad page.  https://posix.rhansen.org/p/bug697

We will continue after the Issue 8 draft 1 bug resolution
 

Bug #1386: strftime RETURN VALUE and ERRORS problems Accept as Marked
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1386

On page 1961 line 63753 fix the shading bug.

On page 1962 line 63784 section strftime(), change:
    Replaced by the number of seconds since the Epoch as a decimal
    number (see XBD Section 4.17, on page 93). [all members, as if
    by a call to mktime()]
to:
    Replaced by the number of seconds since the Epoch as a decimal
    number, calculated as described for mktime(). [all members]

On page 1964 lines 63877-63878, change:
    If the total number of resulting bytes including the terminating
    null byte is not more than maxsize
to:
    If successful

On page 1964 line 63879, change:
    Otherwise
to:
    If successful, errno shall not be changed. Otherwise

On page 1964, after line 63882, add (as a "shall fail"):
    [ERANGE] The total number of resulting bytes including the
    terminating NUL character is more than maxsize.


On page 1965, move lines 63883-63884 to just after line 63887, so that [EOVERFLOW] is a "may fail" rather than a "shall fail".

On page 1965 after line 63906 "APPLICATION USAGE" add:
    A return value of 0 may indicate either success or failure if
    a format is the empty string or consists of conversion
    specifications such as <tt>%p</tt> or <tt>%Z</tt> that are
    replaced by no characters in the current locale or because of
    the current setting of tzname[], respectively. To distinguish
    between success and failure when strftime() returns 0, an
    application can set errno to 0 before calling strftime() and
    test whether errno is 0 afterwards.

Bug #1393: 'command' should not be treated as a declaration utility         OPEN
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1393

We did not complete discussion on this item and will continue next time.


Gettext draft.

We will return to this on a future call.

The gettext draft in the etherpad is at

https://posix.rhansen.org/p/gettext_draft
https://posix.rhansen.org/p/gettext_split

Next Steps 
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The next calls are on:

September 24th 2020 (Thursday)
This call will be for 90 minutes.

September 28th 2020 (Monday)
This call will be for 60 minutes.

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) 

Apologies in advance:
    Eric Ackermann, Thu 2020-09-24
    Tom Thompson, Thu 2020-09-24

Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.

Bugs are at:
https://austingroupbugs.net

An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below:

https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd

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