Minutes of the 11th March 2021 Teleconference     Austin-1111 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 13th March 2021

Attendees:
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
    Joerg Schilling
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
    Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev.
    Richard Hansen
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group (partial)

Apologies:
    Tom Thompson, IEEE
    Eric Ackermann, HPI, University of Potsdam

* General news 

Reminder:the USA switches to Daylight Saving Time on March 14,
the UK and EU on March 28. All calls are anchored
on US time, so calls between March 14 and 28 will be one 
hour earlier than normal in the UK and EU.

* Outstanding actions

(Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes -
to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes
from 13th June 2019 and earlier)

Bug 1254: "asynchronous list" description uses "command" instead of "AND-OR list" OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1254
Action: Joerg to investigate how his shell behaves.

Bug 700 - Nick to raise this issue with the C committee
Bug 713 - Nick to raise with the C committee.
Bug 739 - Nick to raise with the C committee.


* Current Business


Bug 1406: clarification of SEEK_END when current pointer doesn't match buffer size OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1406

We are still waiting for input from implementations on this item before proceeding.

Bug #1422: The current definition for the += assignment is in conflict  with existing behavior of make and unpredictable/error-prone Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1422

This item is tagged for Issue 8

On page 2903 line 97634,97638,97638 section make (APPLICATION USAGE)
change "IMMED" to "Immed".

On page 2903 line 97641 section make (APPLICATION USAGE), add a new
paragraph:

    Because the behavior of the <tt>+=</tt> assignment differs
    depending on whether the macro being appended to is a
    delayed-expansion macro or an immediate-expansion macro, it is
    recommended that when both macro types are used in a set of
    multiple makefiles and include files, a naming convention is
    adopted to distinguish the two macro types. This avoids any
    confusion about whether <tt>+=</tt> will append the expanded
    or unexpanded value. A suitable convention might be to name
    delayed-expansion macros using uppercase and underscore characters
    and immediate-expansion macros using a name that contains at
    least one lowercase character.


Bug #1423: The make commandline argument macro::=value has unspecified bahavior Withdrawn
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1423

Bug #1424: Inconsistent spelling of single suffix vs. single-suffix Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1424

This item is tagged for TC3-2008

The 2nd and 5th bullet points in the description are the cases that
need a hyphen added. The 4th ("one of the single suffixes appended")
does not need a hyphen, as "single suffixes" is not being used as
an adjective there.

Bug #1425: exit in an EXIT trap is not clearly specified Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1425

This item is tagged for TC3-2008


Bug #1426: Clarifications regarding functions that synchronize memory Accepted
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1426

This item is tagged for TC3-2008

Bug #1427: 2.8.1 does not take into account "command"
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1427

We started on this item and will return to this item next time.

Gettext draft.

We will return to this on a future call.

The gettext draft in the etherpad is at

https://posix.rhansen.org/p/gettext_draft
https://posix.rhansen.org/p/gettext_split

Next Steps 
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The next calls are on:

March 15th 2021 (Monday) 
This call will be for 60 minutes.

March 18th 2020 (Thursday)
This call will be for 90 minutes.

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) 

Note that the US clocks will change on March 14th 2021.

Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.

Bugs are at:
https://austingroupbugs.net

An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below:

https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd

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