Minutes of the 31st October 2024 Teleconference    Austin-1433 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.        2nd November 2024

Attendees:
   Andrew Josey, The Open Group
   Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
   Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR
   Geoff Clare, The Open Group
   Eric Ackermann, CISPA
   Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR

Apologies
   Tom Thompson, IEEE

The ISO status remains unchanged.

Andrew had started to prepare for a PAR submission at IEEE and had
some feedback from Tom to change the submission date to the SA
ballot date to July 2025 and the submit to RevCom date to January
2026. The reasoning as follows:  the NesCom review would
happen in January and since the dates are only estimates, the group
is not held to them.  While there isn't much to update giving the
group about 6 months to complete the work should limit comments or
questions from NesCom.

Geoff had reviewed the ISO editorial comments to see whether any were
editorial corrections that we felt should also be included in a TC,
and has started to file a number of bug reports so they can be 
further considered.


* Carried forward

Bug 1851: FD_CLOFORK should not be preserved across exec
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1851

This item still open.
AI: Andrew to try to contact Solaris, other BSD, AIX, and macOS for
comments.  Andrew has partially completed this, sending notes to
contacts for Solaris and macOS. A response has been received for
Solaris. It does not appear as if we will get further responses on this one.


* Current Business


Bug 1866: crontab: does not support Utility Syntax Guideline 13  Accepted as Marked
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1866

This item is tagged for TC1-2024.

On page 2750 line 90949 section crontab (STDIN), change:
    See the INPUT FILES section.
to:
    The standard input shall be used if no file operand is specified,
    and shall be used if the file operand is '−' and the implementation
    treats the '−' as meaning standard input. Otherwise, the standard
    input shall not be used. See the INPUT FILES section.

Bug 1863: ISO editors Issue 8 comment 015   Accepted
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1863

This item is tagged for TC1-2024.

Bug 1864: ISO editors Issue 8 comment 045   Accepted
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1864

This item is tagged for TC1-2024.

Bug 1865: ISO editors Issue 8 comment 053  Accepted
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1865

This item is tagged for TC1-2024.

Bug 1867: ISO editors Issue 8 comment 046  Accepted as Marked
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1867

This item is tagged for TC1-2024.

Make the changes in the desired action and also add the following definitions in the appropriate place:

3.xxx BRE
    See [xref to 3.43 Basic Regular Expression].

3.yyy ERE
    See [xref to 3.134 Extended Regular Expression].

3.zzz Not a Number
    See [xref to 3.217 NaN].

Bug 1868: ISO editors Issue 8 comment 051  OPEN
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1867

We started on this item and will continue next time.

Next Steps 
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