Minutes of the 12th December 2024 Teleconference    Austin-1439 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.        13th December 2024

Attendees:
    Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    Eric Ackermann, CISPA
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR


We confirmed the calendar for upcoming meetings. As a reminder
after December 19 we will take a break until January 9th.

There is no change in status of progress with ISO approval.


* Open Business

Bug 1876: clarify, whether a trap action that is executed from a   OPEN
context where set -e is ignored, would have set -e ignored, too
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1876

Andrew took an action to ask shell developers to comment on this issue.
(completed by sending an email to the reflector: austin-group-l:archive/latest/37925).

* Current Business

Bug 1884: file references FORTRAN
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1884

Accepted as marked, resolved, tc1-2024 tag.

On page 2933 line 97898 section file (STDOUT), delete:
    | FORTRAN source | fortran program text | 3,5,6 |

On page 2936 line 98028 section file (RATIONALE), change:
    binary data, C source, FORTRAN source, assembler source, ...
to:
    binary data, source for C and other programming languages, ...

On page 2936 line 98032 section file (RATIONALE), after:
    Only those types that are reasonably well specified in POSIX
    or are directly related to POSIX utilities are listed in the
    table.

add a sentence:
    Versions of this standard earlier than Issue 8 included a FORTRAN
    development option, and so the file utility was required to
    attempt to identify FORTRAN source. This is no longer required.


On page 2937 line 98057 section file (RATIONALE), change:
    shell scripts, C, FORTRAN, and other computer language source
    files, and ...
to:
    shell scripts, source for C and other programming languages,
    and ...

Bug 1885: Definition of "name" omits its use as a verb
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1885

Accepted, resolved, tc1-2024 tag.

Bug 1886: Conflicting statements about '-' as an operand
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1886

Accepted, resolved, tc1-2024 tag.

Bug 1887: pax -o invalid=action introductory paragraph needs updating
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1887
Accepted, resolved, tc1-2024 tag.

Bug 1888: pthread.h: change "pthread_attr_getstackaddr,( )" to "pthread_attr_getstackaddr( ),"
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1888
Accepted, resolved, tc1-2024 tag.

Bug 1889: pthread.h: change "pthread_attr_getstackaddr,( )" to "pthread_attr_getstackaddr( ),"
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1889
Duplicate of 1888 for older standard. Closed.


Next Steps 
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The next calls are on
 Thu 2024-12-19 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)
 Thu 2025-01-09 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)


The calls are for 90 minutes

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific)

Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.

Bugs are at:
https://austingroupbugs.net

An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date
format as below:

https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd

(For write access this uses The Open Group single sign on,
for those individuals with gitlab.opengroup.org accounts.
Please contact Andrew if you need to be setup)