Minutes of the 30th January 2025 Teleconference Austin-1444 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 31st January 2025 Attendees: Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR Andrew Josey, The Open Group Eric Ackermann, CISPA Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR Tom Thompson, IEEE Apologies Geoff Clare, The Open Group We confirmed the calendar for upcoming meetings (unchanged) with the next meeting on February 13th and no meeting on February 6th. There is no change in status of progress with ISO approval. Andrew will touch base with parties regarding ISO status and whether to proceed the alternate IEEE PSDO route to ISO. The PAR for the TC1 was on the agenda for the Jan 29th IEEE NesCOM meeting. Tom reported that it progressed as expected and will be formally approved in mid February. * Open Business Bug 1876: clarify, whether a trap action that is executed from a OPEN context where set -e is ignored, would have set -e ignored, too https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1876 Andrew took an action to ask shell developers to comment on this issue. (completed by sending an email to the reflector: austin-group-l:archive/latest/37925). * Current Business Bug 864: Insufficient specification of storage requirements for synchronization objects https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=864 We discussed this item that had been tabled until Issue 8 TC 1. AI: Andrew to contact Rich Felker to determine whether or not items 1 an 4 have been resolved by section 2.9.9 and to get suggested wording for changes to address items 2 and 3. The action was completed, but no response received as yet. Bug 1903: Default target description omits pattern rules https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1903 Rejected, closed. On P2343, L105906-105914 the standard says: The application shall ensure that the target portion is a valid target name (see Target Rules, on page 3137) of the form .s2 or .s1.s2 (where .s1 and .s2 are suffixes that have been given as prerequisites of the .SUFFIXES special target and s1 and s2 do not contain any or characters.) If there is only one in the target, it is a single-suffix inference rule. Targets with two periods are double-suffix inference rules. Inference rules can have only one target before the . so a rule that starts with %.o:%.c is a double-suffix inference rule. Note also that macro definitions can be included in makefiles, but macro definitions do not have targets. Since they don't have targets, a target cannot be found in a macro definition. We do not see any problem with the current wording in the standard. Therefore, this bug is rejected. Bug 0001616: Standardize mktemp utility https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1616 We briefly discussed the status of this bug report. It is confirmed that this will be sponsored by The Open Group. The same status applies to getpeerid, memrchr, tzalloc/tzfree, localtime_rz, mktime_z, strcasestr, strcasestr_l Similarly The Open Group will sponsor changes arising from bugs 1831, 1832 Next Steps ---------- The next calls are on Thu 2025-02-06 No meeting Thu 2025-02-13 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs) Apologies in Advance: Nick Stoughton 2025-02-06, 2025-02-13 The calls are for 90 minutes Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) Please check the calendar invites for dial in details. Bugs are at: https://austingroupbugs.net An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below: https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd (For write access this uses The Open Group single sign on, for those individuals with gitlab.opengroup.org accounts. Please contact Andrew if you need to be setup)