Minutes of the 12th June 2025 Teleconference Austin-1459 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 14th June 2025 Attendees: Andrew Josey, The Open Group Eric Ackermann, CISPA Geoff Clare, The Open Group Haelwenn Monnier, The Open Group Mark Brown Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR Apologies Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR * General business We confirmed the calendar for upcoming meetings, the next meeting is June 19th. Andrew noted that there was no new status update on the IEEE PSDO process. * Open Business Bug 1876: clarify, whether a trap action that is executed from a OPEN context where set -e is ignored, would have set -e ignored, too https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1876 Andrew took an action to ask shell developers to comment on this issue. (completed by sending an email to the reflector: austin-group-l:archive/latest/37925). Bug 864: Insufficient specification of storage requirements for synchronization objects https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=864 AI: Andrew to contact Rich Felker to determine whether or not items 1 an 4 have been resolved by section 2.9.9 and to get suggested wording for changes to address items 2 and 3. The action was completed, but no response received as yet. Bug 1904: LC_TIME era start_date (and end_date) possibly mis-specified https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1904 This was discussed during the 2025-02-13 meeting: Historically, there was no year 0 and the standard is worded to reflect this fact. Is this what implementation actually do? Andrew had completed an action to ask for input on what other implementations do and some feedback has been received so need to return to this on a future call. * Current Business Bug 1926: Nobody has mistaken bytes for bits when deciding value for GETENTROPY_MAX do we? https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1926 Accepted as marked, resolved, tc1-2024 tag Change Page 1119 Line 38387 from: A successful call to getentropy( ) shall always provide the requested number of bytes of entropy. To: A successful call to getentropy( ) shall always provide the requested number of random bytes. Bug 1927: Add sponge utility https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1927 This item was discussed at length with consensus leaning towards a rejection. This will be continued at the next meeting. Next Steps We will start on bug 1927 next time The next calls are on Thu 2025-06-19 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs) The calls are for 90 minutes Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) Please check the calendar invites for dial in details. Bugs are at: https://austingroupbugs.net An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below: https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd (For write access this uses The Open Group single sign on, for those individuals with gitlab.opengroup.org accounts. Please contact Andrew if you need to be setup)