Austin Group Minutes of the 10 June Teleconference Austin-214 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.              June 11, 2004

Attendees

Andrew Josey, The Open Group
Don Cragun , Sun, PASC OR
Nick Stoughton, USENIX, WG15 OR
Mark Brown, IBM, TOG OR 

Apologies
Dave Butenhof, HP
Joanna Farley, Sun 
Ulrich Drepper, Red Hat


Draft Status
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No new status to report.
The hardcopy run was received from the printers and dispatched.
Only one copy is left remaining.
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Defect Report Processing
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The group picked up on the latest batch of defect reports,
which are available at the following URL:
http://www.opengroup.org/austin/aardvark/latest/

XBD ERN 7 , BRE nested subpatterns (XBD BRE defn vs regcomp()) OPEN

Glenn Fowler took an action from the last meeting and 
circulated a proposal to the discussion list on Jun 3. 
Action on all to review that proposal for the next meeting.
Leave open for now.

AI-026
A new interpretation had been proposed relating to
option constants in unistd.h. 
Concern about replication of text/requirements.
Action: Andrew to respond to Geoff's proposal, with
consideration for which section (unistd.h or 2.1.6) should
have most of the text.

XRAT ERN 1  rationale for cancellation points out of sync
with normative text 	Accept


(XSH - note some of the defect report numbers were off by one,
the set below has the corrected numbers)

XSH ERN 36 editorial error unsigned sigval -> union sigval Accept
It was agreed that this is an editorial error.

XSH ERN 37 mq_notify behavior when process not registered Accept as marked below

This is presently an unaddressed issue in the specification,
If the process is not currently registered it is unspecified
whether nothing is done or the call fails.
This issue should be sent down the interpretations track.
No conformance distinction can be for this version of the specification.
                                                                                
The working group should consider in a future revision adding
EINVAL error as a may fail case to allow implementations to
detect this if they wish.

XSH ERN 38 mq_notify description should also refer to mq_timedreceive() Accept

XSH ERN 39 deadlock detection for pthread_mutex_getprioceiling() OPEN

The standard does not address the issue, and so if the calling thread
does not have the mutex locked the results are unspecified.
In a future revision we could require that the mutex locked or something
else... leave open for another week to get thread expert input.

XSH ERN 40 mem_align() alignment Accept

XCU ERN 18 mailx and LC_TIME   Accept as marked below

This issue should be forwarded down the interpretations track a
a proposed defect in the standard.
The proposed change for a future revision is to revert to
wording based on the 1992 standard:
                                                                                
LC_TIME         This variable may determine the format and contents of
the date and time strings written by mailx.
This volume of IEEE Std 1003.1-2001 specifies
the effects of this variable only for systems supporting the User
Portability Utilities Option.

XCU ERN 19 pax and UTF-8 handling Accept as Marked below

The current wording in the aardvark was modified as suggested
by Paul Eggert, rewording the rationale section as follows:

Change from:
   Archives using the pax extended header hdrcharset
   keyword are not portable and are only expected to be
   used to save files from a system and restore files to
   the same system.

   Users are not encouraged to use hdrcharset directly;
   it is primarily intended to support the -o
   invalid=binary option.

to:

   Translating file names and other attributes from a
   locale's encoding to UTF-8 and then back again can lose
   information, as the resulting file name might not be
   byte-for-byte equivalent to the original.  To avoid
   this problem, users can specify the -o
   hdrcharset=binary option, which will cause the
   resulting archive to use binary format for all names
   and attributes.  Such archives are not portable among
   hosts that use different native encodings (e.g.,
   EBCDIC- versus ASCII-based encodings), but they will
   allow interchange among the vast majority of POSIX file
   systems in practical use.  Also, the -o
   hdrcharset=binary option will cause pax in copy mode to
   behave more like other standard utilities like cp.

(the rdvk report should be consulted for the full change)

Next Steps
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Andrew  will update the aardvark reports with the latest inbound
defect reports.

Andrew will generate some new interpretations.

There are a number of open action items outstanding:
1. Don Cragun Pathname Resolution proposal
2. Larry Dwyer system() and threads
3. Joerg Schilling wording for XCU ERN 1 pax

The next teleconference call is scheduled for June 24 2004