Austin Group Minutes of the 23 June Teleconference Austin-261 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.              June 24, 2005

Attendees
Andrew Josey, The Open Group
Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC OR
Don Cragun , Sun, PASC OR
Mats Wichmann
Ulrich Drepper, Red Hat
Mark Brown, IBM, TOG OR


We also had an IRC channel open for this call

 	 irc://irc.freestandards.org/austin

Action item review 
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Just the updates on Austin/240r1 are noted here.

ACTION AI-2005-01-09 Andrew Josey & Mats Wichmann to propose a time and place
for a joint Austin group/LSB Workgroup meeting to consider LSB/POSIX
conflicts, to be held as soon as conveniently possible.
Status: OPEN

LSB 3.0 is just about done. Targeting July 1 approval
We do not anticipate any major changes to the conflicts document.
Nick still has an action to prepare an agenda for a teleconference.


ACTION AI-2005-01-06: AJ to contact Jack McCann at HP for views on
getnameinfo document, and for any other networking issues that may
concern us. 
Status: OPEN, looking for a volunteer to acts as a liaison to
the networking folks at IETF

Other news
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Andrew reported that The Open Group had recently
announced the certification of Solaris 10 on multiple
architectures against the UNIX 03 product standard.


Defect Report Processing
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The group picked up on the latest batch of defect reports,
which are available at the following URL:
http://www.opengroup.org/austin/aardvark/latest/

XSH ERN 89 setpgrp OPEN

Andrew has the action (completed) to contact the requestor
and request more information on the problem that has
been encountered with the current wording. 
Also ask whether he believes the wording of setsid() needs
to be changed.

This item remains open pending response from original requestor.
Andrew reported that he had been in touch with the originator
and that the individual had been on vacation.

XCU ERN 12 vi

The TC2 page references for this item are p1017 line 39169
A request has been received to put this item down the interpretations
track, which it was agreed to do.

Handle as an interpretation request (defect).
The standards states the requirements, and conforming implementations must
conform to this. However, concerns have been raised about this
which are being referred to the sponsor.
The suggested changes to be put forward as proposed text for
a future revision.


XCU ERN 65 c99 Accept as marked below

Change line  8571
from
In this case the -l Q operand need only precede the first -l p operand,
since both libQ.a and libp.a reside in the same directory.

to
In this case the -L operand need only precede the first -l operand,
since both libQ.a and libp.a reside in the same directory.

XCU ERN 66 strip Accept as marked below

Handle as an interpretation request (defect).
The standards states the requirements 
and conforming implementations must
conform to this. However, concerns have been raised about this
which are being referred to the sponsor.
The suggested changes to be put forward as proposed text for
a future revision.

Rationale:
This was considered as two issues:the first was that executable
should also include relocatable and object files.
The second was the contradiction between  ar and strip.

Proposed changes for a future revision:
Page 883
Add to the start of DESCRIPTION  before line 34258

A strippable file is defined as a relocatable, object or executable file.
[XSI] On XSI-conformant systems a strippable file can also
be an archive of object or relocatable files. [/XSI]

Change occurrences of "executable file" throughout the page to
"strippable file" (lines 34253,34258,34269,34293,34307).

Add to RATIONALE
XSI-conformant systems support use of strip on archive files
containing object files or relocatable files.

XCU ERN 67 c99 -O optlevel spacing  Accept

Looking back to Austin_75r2.txt this appears an editorial oversight.

XCU ERN 68  xargs Accept as marked below

 (Note: "{XSI}" in the following means start XSI shading; "{/XSI}"
 means stop XSI shading.)

 Change the SYNOPSIS on P1058, L40762-40763 from:
   xargs [-t] [-p]] [-E eofstr] {XSI}[-I replstr] [-L number]{/XSI}
     [-n number [-x]] [-s size] [utility [argument...]]
 to:
   xargs [-ptx] [-E eofstr] [-s size] [{XSI}-I replstr |
     -L number | {/XSI}-n number] [utility [argument...]]

 Delete the last sentence in the description of the -L option on
 P1059, L40809-40810:
   The -L and -n options are mutually-exclusive; the last one
   specified shall take effect.

 Change the description of the -x option on P1059, L40834-40836 from:
   Terminate if a command line containing number arguments (see the
   -n option above) {XSI}or number lines (see the -L option above) {/XSI}
   will not fit in the implied or specified size (see the -s option
   above).
 to:
   Terminate if a constructed command line will not fit in the
   implied or specified size (see the -s option above).

Add to rationale.
The -I, -L, and -n options are mutually-exclusive.
Some implementations use the last one specified if more than
one is given on a command line , other implementations treat combinations
of the options in different ways.



Next Steps
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Andrew  will update the aardvark reports with the latest inbound
defect reports.

The next call is  Thursday July 14 2005 
irc://irc.freestandards.org/austin