Austin Group Minutes of the 3rd August Teleconference Austin-309 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.              August 4, 2006

Attendees
Andrew Josey, The Open Group
Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC OR
Don Cragun , Sun, PASC OR
Ulrich Drepper, Red Hat
Mats Wichmann

Apologies
Mark Brown, IBM, TOG OR 


Action item review 
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ACTION AI-2006-02-04: Nick Stoughton to submit an aardvark against link()
when the appropriate time is reached w.r.t. approval of strawman 2.
STATUS: OPEN

ACTION AI-2006-02-28: AJ to filter the XSH, XCU and XRAT aardvarks for
SD5 and interps material.
(ongoing action)
STATUS: OPEN, ongoing in progress
The cutoff for draft 1 was June 12.  We are not planning to 
take any changes past that date at the moment.
Austin/280r1 is the latest notes arising from SD5 and is frozen
The new document with new issues arising from SD5 is Austin/302

Action AI-2006-06-01: 
Andrew to work out the full set of changes for recirculation for XSH ERN 132
OPEN


Next Face to Face meeting
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Andrew reported that he sent out the Logistics information to the
reflector.

PASC PAR status
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Andrew had received a request for clarifications on the scope,
and purpose. He had responded and needs to fold the updates
into the draft long scope and the next draft of the document.


Aardvark Defect report processing:
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OPEN ERNS carried forward:

XBD ERN 68 XBD limits.h tracing limits OPEN
Fwded to SSWG-RT (Andrew has completed the action)
Andrew had also sent email to Joe Gwinn requesting help from 
the SSWG-RT but is yet to get a response.

XSH ERN 132 %M for fscanf OPEN
This is invention, but arises from the LSB conflicts.
Leave open, need to work on the wording, including fwscanf
specifics before we can move forward
Action 2006-06-01: 
Andrew to work out the full set of changes for recirculation for XSH ERN 132
OPEN

XSH ERN 133  open and implementation added flags OPEN
Left open since we need specific wording

XSH ERN 162 OPEN 
We need some expert input from realtime experts on this item.
At the moment silence should be read as unspecified.

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+The above carried forward OPEN from last time, we picked up as follows:

XSH ERN 156 pipe Accept as marked.

This was reopened at Don's request and the closed as 
accept as marked as follows:

Insert before line 28279:
     "The pipe's user ID shall be set to the effective user
id of the calling process."

     "The pipe's group ID shall be set to the effective group
id of the calling process."


XCU ERN 94 ed SIGHUP/disconnect OPEN

This was left OPEN since Mark was not on the call. It
was updated with discussions from the reflector

It was agreed that we need to make the wording consistent between
the terminal disconnect text and SIGHUP, or point from one to
the other.
ACTION AI-2006-07-01: Mark Brown to take action to supply wording.
CLOSED his action as follows:

I propose the following ACTION be taken for XCU ERN 94:

Replace the text on XCU page 340, lines 13108-13114 with the following:

"<indent><bullet> The ed utility shall operate as if a SIGHUP signal had 
been
detected."

Change the text on XCU page 337 line 12986 to read:
"shall exit without writing the file to the currently remembered pathname 
and
without returning to command mode."

Geoff responded with:
If the changes proposed in PASC 1003.2-92 #36 are for some reason
not suitable, then I would suggest the following as the replacement
for 13108-13114 (the terminal disconnect case):

    If the terminal disconnect is accompanied by delivery of a SIGHUP
    signal, the ed utility shall operate as described in the
    ASYNCHRONOUS EVENTS section for the SIGHUP signal.  If a SIGHUP
    signal is not delivered, the ed utility shall operate as if
    end-of-file had been detected on standard input.

XCU ERN 95 at and absolute directory names Accept as marked

Change  in the XSI shaded text in DESCRIPTION (at utility page 144 line 5501)
   (batch utility page 190 line 7433) 
 "the file /usr/lib/cron/at.allow"
to
 "the file at.allow which is located in an implementation-defined directory".

Change  in the XSI shaded text in DESCRIPTION (crontab utility page 275 line 10741)
 "the file /usr/lib/cron/cron.allow"
to
 "the file cron.allow which is located in an implementation-defined directory".

Change (at utility page 144 line 5502) (batch utility page 190 line 7433)
 "the file /usr/lib/cron/at.deny shall be checked"
to
 "the file at.deny, which is located in an implementation-defined directory, shall be checked"

Change ( crontab utility page 275 line 10742)
 "the file /usr/lib/cron/cron.deny shall be checked"
to
 "the file cron.deny, which is located in an implementation-defined directory, shall be checked"

In INPUT FILES (at utility page 144 line 5697) (batch utility page 190 line 7446)
Change 
 "The text files /usr/lib/cron/at.allow and /usr/lib/cron/at.deny shall"
to
 "The text files at.allow and at.deny, which are located in an implementation-defined directory, shall..."

In INPUT FILES (crontab utility page 276, line 10787)
Change 
 "The text files /usr/lib/cron/cron.allow and /usr/lib/cron/cron.deny shall"
to
 "The text files cron.allow and cron.deny, which are located in an implementation-defined directory, shall..."


XCU ERN 96 cmp -l Accept

XCU ERN 97 SYNOPSES layout Accept as Marked

Mutually exclusive options should have no space before or after pipe
symbol.  For bracketed groups of options, the bracketed groups should
be separated by a space

grep is a good example of not looking like it should

So grep should be:

19118 grep [−E|−F] [−c|−l|−q] [−insvx] −e pattern_list...
19119   [−f pattern_file]... [file...]
19120 grep [−E|−F] [−c|−l|−q] [−insvx] [−e pattern_list]...
19121   −f pattern_file... [file...]
19122 grep [−E|−F] [−c|−l|−q] [−insvx] pattern_list [file...]

This will require a global editorial pass.
Action 2006-08-01: AJ to discuss with Cathy and confirm at the meeting
how they are to be handling. 

XCU ERN 98 grep -l and -q Accept

XCU ERN 99 m4 max number of diverts Accept

Next Steps
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Andrew  will update the aardvark reports with the latest inbound
defect reports.
The next call will be 17 August

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