Austin Group Minutes of the 28th August 2007 Teleconference Austin-379 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.             August 29, 2007

Attendees

Andrew Josey, The Open Group
Don Cragun , Sun, PASC OR
Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC OR
Ulrich Drepper, Red Hat
Geoff Clare, The Open Group
Mats Wichmann, Intel

Apologies
Mark Brown, IBM, TOG OR  

Action item review 
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ACTION AI-2005-01-01: Don Cragun to present paper on pathname resolution.
OPEN

ACTION 2007-02-06: Ulrich to research issue 15 and propose text for XSH
intro to explain directory searching, with special respect to the *at()
functions.
OPEN (Geoff has posted some mail on this, come back to this when Ulrich
has the cycles) Ulrich has also now posted some thoughts on this item.

It was agreed that we need to close this actions at the September meeting
so we can incorporate the changes into D4

Status
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Meeting registration for the September face to face meeting
is now open. http://www.opengroup.org/austin/
So far registered attendees are:

Andrew Josey, The Open Group
Cathy Fox, The Open Group
Geoff Clare, The Open Group
Nick Stoughton, USENIX
Mark Brown, IBM (tc)
Don Cragun
Mats Wichmann
Ulrich Drepper

POSIX C++  binding group status: 
The PAR and PMC criteria have been submitted to the PASC SEC.
The PASC SEC vote is in progress.

Aardvark Bug Reports
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XSH ERN 204 regcomp OPEN
We need to investigate behaviors
Unless a test program is submitted this item will remain open.

XSH ERN 217 tcsetattr  OPEN
XSH ERN 218 poll OPEN


XCU ERN 153 update (no change to current resolution)
Note Geoff had posted the changes to implement in version 7
in mail seq 10927 and we should hold those on file for merging
into the revision. Andrew has added a note to the aardvark report.

XCU ERN 163 update 
s/full/role/; s/non matching/``non-matching''/
Andrew has applied the corrections to the aardvark report.

XCU ERN 164 dot Accept

XCU ERN 165 mv Accept

Send down the interpretations track.
The standard is clear, the standard is wrong , concerns
are being forwarded to the sponsor.

XCU ERN 166 mv Accept as marked below

Send down the interpretations track.
The standard is ambiguous, no conformance distinctions can be 
made about different implementations , concerns
are being forwarded to the sponsor.

 At line 25398, insert a new step 2:

 2. If the source_file operand and destination path name the same
 existing file, then the destination path shall not be removed, and one of
 the following shall occur:
   a. No change is made to source_file, no error occurs, and no
 diagnostic is issued.
   b. No change is made to source_file, a diagnostic is issued to
 standard identifying the two names, and the exit status is affected.
   c. If the source_file operand and destination path name distinct
 directory entries, then the source_file operand is removed, no error
 occurs, and no diagnostic is issued.
  The mv utility shall do nothing more with
 the current source_file, and go on to any remaining source_files.

 Renumber the existing steps 2-6 into 3-7.

 At line 25500, add a new paragraph to Application Usage:

 The specification ensures that 'mv a a' will not alter the contents
 of file 'a', and allows the implementation to issue an error that
 a file cannot be moved onto itself.  Likewise, when 'a' and 'b'
 are hard links to the same file, 'mv a b' will not alter 'b', but
 if a diagnostic is not issued, then it is unspecified whether 'a'
 is left untouched (as it would be by the rename() function) or
 unlinked (reducing the link count of 'b').


XCU ERN 57 mv Accept as marked below

Send down the interpretations track.
The standard is clear, concerns
are being forwarded to the sponsor.

After XCU page 655 line 25410 append this:
 If the destination path exists and was created by a previous step it is
 unspecified whether this will treated as an error or the
destination
 path will be overwritten.
 Change XCU page 268 line 10474 from this:
    a.  If dest_file exists, the following steps shall be taken:
  to this:
    a.  The behavior is unspecified if dest_file exists and was
    written by a previous step.  Otherwise, if dest_file exists, the
    following steps shall be taken:


Action: Andrew to send further rdvks down the interpretations track.

Next Steps
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Andrew  will update the aardvark reports with the latest inbound
defect reports.

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