Austin Group Minutes of the 18 Oct 2007 Teleconference Austin-402 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.             Oct 19 , 2007

Attendees

Andrew Josey, The Open Group
Geoff Clare, The Open Group
Mark Brown, IBM, TOG OR  
Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC OR
Don Cragun , Sun, PASC OR
Ulrich Drepper, Red Hat

Apologies
Eric Blake
Mats Wichmann, Intel

Status update
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Andrew announced that the 3.2 snapshot will be available on 19 October.
The main new features are the merger of the recent interpretations and
a small number of SD5 changes.  The changes bars in the 3.2 release are
against 3.1.

Andrew noted that he will confirm the change of meeting date in the next
week.

We picked up again on the 2004 aardvark reports.

XSH ERN 226 connect  Accept as marked below

From mail discussions:

The discussions around the connect() calls to reset the connection lead
to two results:

- the current "null address" wording is implemented but it cannot be
  tied down enough to make it useful.  I.e., the form of a "null
  address" would have to be implementation defined

- nobody has any problem with using addresses with AF_UNSPEC family
  to guarantee reset

It was agreed that everybody should implement the second.  But since the
former is implementation defined it makes no sense to keep this method
in the specification.  Implementations are free to not change their
current implementations to maintain compatibility.  But application
developers (and developers of new implementations) should be pointed
only at the AF_UNSPEC method.

This leads to the following changes:

XSH page 682, connect(), line 23101f (in draft 3.1r):

In fourth para of DESCRIPTION
Change from 

If address is a null address for the protocol, the socket’s peer
address shall be reset.


To:

If the /sa_family/ member of /address/ is AF_UNSPEC, the socket’s peer
address shall be reset.

XSH ERN 218 poll Open

This item has been reopened based on email discussions.


Austin-092


Geoff raised an issue on about whether AI-092 goes far enough
and will take an action to propose additional changes.

XCU ERN 22 awk   Open

This is a longstanding open aardvark. It was agreed that we
should seek Paul Eggert's input, specifically relating to
mail seq 9266 (similarly for XCU ERN 23).

XCU ERN 61 find Accept as marked below

This should be sent down the interps track.

 Replace the description of the -H and -L options with the following:

    -H  Cause the file information and file type evaluated for each
        symbolic link encountered as a path operand on the command line
        to be those of the file referenced by the link, and not the link
        itself.  If the referenced file does not exist, the file
        information and type shall be for the link itself.  File
        information and type for symbolic links encountered during the
        traversal of a file hierarchy shall be that of the link itself.

    -L  Cause the file information and file type evaluated for each
        symbolic link encountered as a path operand on the command line
        or encountered during the traversal of a file hierarchy to be
        those of the file referenced by the link, and not the link
        itself.  If the referenced file does not exist, the file
        information and type shall be for the link itself.

    Specifying more than one of the mutually-exclusive options -H and -L
    shall not be considered an error.  The last option specified shall
    determine the behavior of the utility.  If neither the -H nor the -L
    option is specified, then the file information and type for symbolic
    links encountered as a path operand on the command line or
    encountered during the traversal of a file hierarchy shall be that
    of the link itself.


 Add a new paragraph to the end of the OPERANDS section (after line
 17659):

    When the file type evaluated for the current file is symbolic link
    the results of evaluating the -perm primary are implementation defined.




Next Steps
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Andrew  will update the aardvark reports with the latest inbound
defect reports.

The next  meeting is the Tues 30th October, 16:00 UK start.
and 1st Nov 2007. Note the different TZ offsets for that week,
as the UK will have reverted back to UTC as its localtime.
The meeting will last for 90 minutes.

See http://www.opengroup.org/austin/.
An IRC  channel will be available for the meeting
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