Minutes of the 10th March 2016 Teleconference Austin-752 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 12th March 2016 Attendees: Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev. Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR Geoff Clare, The Open Group Roger Faulkner, Oracle, The Open Group OR Andrew Josey, The Open Group Eric Blake, Red Hat Brian Utterback, Oracle Joerg Schilling, FOKUS Fraunhofer David Clissold, IBM Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR Richard Hansen Apologies Martin Rehak, Oracle * General news We discussed the balloting and involvement of ISO/IEC. Andrew should send a note to the ANSI secretariat for ISO/IEC JTC 1 asking them to alert the SC22 technical experts of the current ballot. It was also noted that an email was received to the list from David Korn. Andrew should send past actions to David Korn. * Outstanding actions ( Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes - to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes from 28 Jan 2016) * Current Business Bug #249: Add standard support for $'...' in shell Reopened http://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=249 We will return to bug 249 on a future call. Bug #953: Alias expansion is under-specified OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=953 The bug has its own etherpad page at http://posix.rhansen.org:9001/p/bug953 We will continue this on the next call. #956: Documentation unification regarding PAGER Accepted as marked http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=956 An interpretation required is required, This item is tagged for TC3-2008 Interpretation response: The standard is unclear on this issue, and no conformance distinction can be made between alternative implementations based on this. This is being referred to the sponsor. Rationale: The standard is ambiguous if the standard output is not a terminal. Notes to the Editor (not part of this interpretation): At page 2911 line 96088-96090 change When standard output is a terminal device, the message output shall be piped through the command if the mailx internal variable crt is set to a value less the number of lines in the message; see Internal Variables in mailx (on page 2915). to When standard output is a terminal device, the message output shall be piped through the command if the mailx internal variable crt is set to a value less than the total number of lines in the messages; see Internal Variables in mailx (on page 2915). When standard output is not a terminal device, it is unspecified whether the message output is written directly to standard output or is subject to pagination. On P2915, L96288 change: no name to: noname (i.e. remove the space) At page 2916 lines 96322-96324, change: crt=number Pipe messages having more than number lines through the command specified by the value of the PAGER variable. The default shall be nocrt. If it is set to null, the value used is implementation-defined. to crt=number Paginate message output as described for the PAGER variable. The default shall be nocrt, disabling this pagination. If it is set to null, the value used is implementation-defined. At page 2923 lines 96592-96594 and 96598-96600, change: If crt is set, the messages longer than the number of lines specified by the crt variable shall be paged through the command specified by the PAGER environment variable. to If crt is set, the output shall be paginated as described for the PAGER variable. Next Steps ---------- The next call is on March 17, 2016 (a Thursday) Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) This will be one hour earlier than normal in Europe for the next 2 weeks. This call will be for the regular 90 minutes. http://austingroupbugs.net An IRC channel will be available for the meeting irc://irc.freenode.net/austingroupbugs An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below: http://posix@posix.rhansen.org:9001/p/201x-mm-dd password=2115756#