Minutes of the 1st December 2016 Teleconference     Austin-793 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 19th November 2016

Attendees:
    Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    David Clissold, IBM 
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group (partial)
    Eric Blake, Red Hat
    Joerg Schilling, FOKUS Fraunhofer
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Richard Hansen, Google
    Martin Rehak, Oracle, The Open Group OR
 
Apologies
    Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR 

* General news

None.

* Outstanding actions

( Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes -
to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes
from 28 Jan 2016)

Bug 0000249: Add standard support for $'...' in shell   Reopened
http://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=249
We will return to bug 249 on a future call.

Bug 0000953: Alias expansion is under-specified   Was Accepted as Marked
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=953
Richard has an action to propose new wording to discuss in a future telecon.

* Current Business


Bug 1024: chmod() should be allowed to ignore S_ISVTX  Accepted as Marked
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1024 

This item is tagged for TC3-2008
An interpretation is required.

Interpretation response
The standard states the requirements for chmod(), and conforming
implementations must conform to this. However, concerns have been
raised about this which are being referred to the sponsor.

Rationale:
Existing practice on some systems is to ignore S_ISVTX for non-directory
files in non-privileged processes.

Notes to the Editor (not part of this interpretation):
Change lines 22352–22353 from:

    Additional implementation-defined restrictions may cause the
    S_ISUID and S_ISGID bits in mode to be ignored.

to:

    Additional implementation-defined restrictions may cause the
    S_ISUID and S_ISGID bits in mode to be ignored, [XSI]and may
    cause the S_ISVTX bit in mode to be ignored for non-directory
    files[/XSI].


Bug 1025: set description contains counterproductive claims OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1025

This item left open for comments related to bug note 3508


Bug 1026: The shell should support access to all 32 bit from the exit code OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1026


Bug 1028: The operator precedence table is missing the horizontal separator lines         Accepted
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1028

Closed, the html has been fixed.

Bug 1029: typo? in specification of $? after a trap action completes  OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1029

This item to be continued.

Next Steps
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The next call is on December 8th, 2016 (a Thursday)

Andrew will bring up the bridge.

The calls after that are December 15th, then January 5th.


Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) 

This call will be for the regular 90 minutes.

http://austingroupbugs.net

An IRC channel will be available for the meeting
irc://irc.freenode.net/austingroupbugs

An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below:

http://posix@posix.rhansen.org:9001/p/201x-mm-dd
password=2115756#