Minutes of the 22nd August 2019 Teleconference Austin-963 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Geoff Clare, The Open Group. 23rd August 2019 Attendees: Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev. Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR Geoff Clare, The Open Group Mike Crowe, BrightSign Apologies Andrew Josey Eric Blake * General news None. * Outstanding actions (Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes - to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes from 13th June 2019 and earlier) Bug 1254: "asynchronous list" description uses "command" instead of "AND-OR list" OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1254 Action: Joerg to investigate how his shell behaves. * Current Business Bug 1216: Adding clockid parameter to functions that accept absolute struct timespec timeouts OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1216 Mike Crowe joined the call to discuss how to progress this bug. We agreed that bug note 4478 is sufficient for a call for sponsorship. Action: Eric to ask if The Open Group is willing to sponsor this interface, referencing bug note 4478. Geoff commented that he believed the steps once sponsorship is in place will be for the editorial staff at The Open Group to turn bug note 4478 into a document suitable for submission to "company review" (a formal review by member companies of The Open Group). The editors may need to liaise with Mike during the work on this document - if nothing else just to let him see a copy before it goes for formal review. Bug 1274: pid_t must fit in an int for definition of fcntl to be consistent. OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1274 We agreed that we should add F_GETOWN_EX, F_SETOWN_EX, struct f_owner_ex, F_OWNER_PID and F_OWNER_PGRP (but not F_OWNER_TID) based on glibc. Action: Geoff to craft wording changes, including an [EOVERFLOW] error for F_GETOWN, application usage warning about F_SETOWN and PIDs > INT_MAX, and rationale for omitting F_OWNER_TID. Later in the meeting Mark raised an issue with enums. The others present thought that he was saying there is a problem with the XBD definition of Symbolic Constant allowing the use of enums, and were adamant that there is no problem there, but it later emerged (from additions to the etherpad after the meeting) that the problem he had identified is that glibc uses an enum for the "type" member of struct f_owner_ex, contrary to the man page showing it as "int" that Eric quoted in bug note 4524. Geoff will take this into account in the wording he proposes. Bug 1277: Use of in an ERE in awk Accepted http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1277 This item is tagged for TC3-2008. Bug 1280: Error requirements with UTIME_OMIT OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1280 We agreed to resolve this in the manner suggested by Geoff in bug note 4529. Action: Geoff to craft the full wording changes. Bug 1281: ex substitute command missing statement about error Accepted http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1281 This item is tagged for TC3-2008. We decided to review the status of open bugs tagged c99, in case there are any that need further liaison with the C committee to progress them. Bug 249 - no liaison required (questionable if it really merits a c99 tag) Bug 374 - in hand (there was recent contact with the C committee) Bug 700 - Action: Nick to raise this issue with the C committee Bug 701 - we believe we have what we need to resolve this one We will continue with bug 701 next time, and also review 713, 739 and 1022. Next Steps ---------- The next calls are on: August 29 2019 (Thursday) This call will be for 90 minutes. September 5 2019 (Thursday) This call will be for 90 minutes. No meetings Mon 2019-08-26 (UK holiday) and Mon 2019-09-02 (US holiday). Apologies in advance: Andrew Josey, 2019-09-09 Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) Please check the calendar invites for dial in details. http://austingroupbugs.net An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below: https://posix.rhansen.org/p/201x-mm-dd username=posix password=2115756#