Let me know when you're done slinging clueless insults and we can return
to a technical discussion.
Jason Zions
Former chair, IEEE 1003.1 System Services Working Group
-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando [mailto:yyyyyyyy@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:21 AM
To: Jason Zions
Cc: H. Peter Anvin; Matt Seitz; yyyyyyyyyyyyyy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Defect report for the CD "020205_1224"
Jason Zions wrote:
>Funny; I think of Linux as 'poor'. Imagine that. Perspective is
>important, no?
>
Comparing Linux and MS Windows is equivalent to compare a standard 'car'
(Microsoft)
sometimes with 'motor problems' with a Concorde (Linux) where very few
pilots can drive.
I suppose you don't know Linux. For this reason you suppose is 'poor'
>As for UNIX being sacred - that's a scary thought. Standard, yes;
>blessed by some divinity, decidedly not.
>
Probably 'sacred' is not the right word, but when I use the word, was
because UNIX is the better Operating System ever made.
Today, also Apple adopt UNIX ... and the NT efforts to emulate UNIX does
not really works.
Our goal as a company is to move people to understand what is better and
teach them why.
So, you are a potential client.
Here is not the right place, for this discussion.
Joliet was good in its days ... like Microsoft was ... the future is
another matter.
In ISO9660 there are different choices. Joliet simply have no sense to
be used.
If someone are developing a UNIX standard ... must use it.
I am agree with Matt about that "ISO9660" Interchange Level 2 will be
fine.
Thanks,
Giovanni.
PS. Is important to use ... what we speak and design. If we are speaking
about
UNIX ... we need to use it. Linux is better than any other UNIX.
Joliet and Microsoft are 'different things' in an UNIX enviroment.
>
>Try thinking of it this way - there are ten times more computers which
>can read Joliet than can read Rock Ridge. Consider 1003.1-2001 as
>"subversive literature" to the Windows world; what would be the point
>of publishing propaganda if the target audience couldn't read it?
>
>(For the humor-impaired - the above is tongue-in-cheek. I use Windows,
>and I used a 1003.1 and .2 comforming system. Simultaneously. No
>dual-boot, no Vmware. Nothing subversive about 9945-1.)
>
>Jason Zions
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando [mailto:yyyyyyyy@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:00 AM
>To: H. Peter Anvin
>Cc: Matt Seitz; yyyyyyyyyyyyyy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Defect report for the CD "020205_1224"
>
>
>H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>
>>Matt Seitz wrote:
>>
>>>--- Andrew Josey <yyyyyy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>The CD is in Joliet filesystem format,
>>>>Linux and some other systems support this format by default.
>>>>
>Take Microsoft stuff OUT of sacred UNIX stuff.
>
>Please.
>
>Thanks to Linux ... we probably will remove for ever this 'poor'
>sofware
>
>from our lives.
>
>Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
>Founder & President of Future Technologies.
>
>
>>>
>>>Using a proprietary Microsoft format to publish an open POSIX-UNIX
>>>standard? Ugh. I recommend that next time the disc be published
>>>using ISO 9660 Interchange Level 2. That will solve the file name
>>>length problem using an
>>>International Standard format instead of a proprietary extension.
>>>
>>Well, since ISO9660, Joliet and RockRidge (the latter at least was
>>proposed as an IEEE standard, although I don't know if that happened
>>or not) are all mutually compatible, there is really no reason not to
>>enable all three.
>>
>> -hpa
>>
>>
>
>
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