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Minutes of the March 9 Teleconference

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Subject: Minutes of the March 9 Teleconference
From: Andrew Josey <yyyyyy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 06:27:27 GMT
All
Enclosed are the minutes from yesterdays teleconference
regards
Andrew

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Austin Group Minutes of the 9 March Teleconference Austin-287 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.              March 10, 2006

Attendees
Andrew Josey, The Open Group
Don Cragun , Sun, PASC OR
Ulrich Drepper, Red Hat
Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC OR

Apologies
Mark Brown, IBM, TOG OR 


Action item review 
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ACTION AI-2006-02-01: Mark Brown to produce proposal for Mandatory Access
Control APIs based on LSPP (labelled security protection profile).
STATUS: CLOSED, Mark reported he will not proceeding with this.

ACTION AI-2006-02-02: Nick Stoughton/Andrew Josey to make periodic
reports into SC22 numbered documents.
STATUS: OPEN
Nick to check with Sally Seitz that she has received recent
requests from the ISO 9945 project editor

ACTION AI-2006-02-03: Ulrich Drepper to submit an aardvark aginst the
TOG strawman 2 document to add the follow/no-follow flag to linkat()
as appropriate.
STATUS: CLOSED

ACTION AI-2006-02-04: Nick Stoughton to submit an aardvark against link()
when the appropriate time is reached w.r.t. approval of strawman 2.
STATUS: OPEN

ACTION AI-2006-02-05: NS to file bugs on strerror_r and basename problems.
STATUS: CLOSED

ACTION AI-2006-02-06: NS to file a bug on waitpid to remove the current
differences.  
STATUS: CLOSED

ACTION AI-2006-02-07: NS to file a bug requesting the waitid function be added 
to LSB.
STATUS: CLOSED


ACTION AI-2006-02-08: Andrew Josey to submit an aardvark against at,
batch and crontab to make the directory used for the allow and deny
files implementation defined.
STATUS: OPEN

ACTION AI-2006-02-09: Nick Stoughton to file a bug in LSB bugzilla to
remove the internationalized REs difference.
STATUS: CLOSED

ACTION AI-2006-02-10: NS to file bug on bc and the use of POSIXLY_CORRECT.
STATUS: CLOSED

ACTION AI-2006-02-11: NS to file bug on chown and chgrp differences.
STATUS: CLOSED (note this was found to be a bug in the TR)

ACTION AI-2006-02-12: NS to file a bug on the cut utility differences.
STATUS: CLOSED

ACTION AI-2006-02-13: NS to file bug to re-evaluate the differences in
df. (-t is still different)
STATUS: CLOSED

ACTION AI-2006-02-14: NS to file a bug on the du differences.
STATUS: CLOSED

ACTION AI-2006-02-15: NS to file bug on find differences
STATUS: CLOSED

ACTION AI-2006-02-16: Mark Brown to file an aardvark to clarify the
wording (change and add examples) to the fuser utility.
STATUS: CLOSED, aardvark filed

ACTION AI-2006-02-17: NS to file bug noting the additional differences in fuser.
STATUS: CLOSED

ACTION AI-2006-02-18: NS to submit bug on newgrp (wrong synopsis and -l
is now supported).
STATUS: CLOSED

ACTION AI-2006-02-19: AJ to contact Louis Strous (louis:yahoo.com) to
request full text for tremove (see XSH ERN 46) and any other related
changes required.
STATUS: CLOSED, email was sent requesting a response by March 31,
however that mail bounced , so the requestor is not reachable.


ACTION AI-2006-02-20: Andrew Josey to create interpretation requests as
necessary for those items marked as interps track.
STATUS: OPEN, this is now in progress

ACTION AI-2006-02-21: Ulrich to provide example code for keeping
signal cleanup handlers in a defined state for use in pselect and
sigsuspend. (see XSH ERN 122). 
STATUS: CLOSED

ACTION AI-2006-02-22: Andrew Josey to request feedback on proposed new
words for XSH ERN 127 (getnameinfo) from network experts.
STATUS: CLOSED

ACTION AI-2006-02-23: Mark Brown to propose new words for XCU ERN 1 (pax).
STATUS: CLOSED


ACTION AI-2006-02-24: DWC to contact Lowell to check electronic procedures
etc for PAR approval by PASC-SEC.
STATUS: OPEN

ACTION AI-2006-02-25: AJ to contact IEEE staff to advise them of our
plans for the revision.
STATUS: CLOSED

ACTION AI-2006-02-26: NS to file aardvark on fine-grain timestamps,
utimes (incorrectly marked legacy) is able to set fine grain timestamps,
stat should be able to get with at least this accuracy.
STATUS: CLOSED, action completed.

ACTION AI-2006-02-27: AJ to publicize the extension to the proposal
submission deadline to March 31.
STATUS: CLOSED

ACTION AI-2006-02-28: AJ to filter the XSH, XCU and XRAT aardvarks for
SD5 and interps material.
STATUS: OPEN, ongoing in progress

ACTION AI-2006-02-29: AJ to publish a first draft of the revision project
plan by 2006-03-03.
STATUS: CLOSED, see Austin/284



Action: on Andrew to collect actions that relate to rdvk and
add them to the appropriate rdvk reports


Defect Report Processing
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The group picked up on the latest batch of defect
reports, which are available at the following URL:
http://www.opengroup.org/austin/aardvark/latest/

XCU ERN 22/23 awk OPEN

We considered the mail from Paul Eggert.
The intent was that the language recognized by awk not
be changed by c99, and that we wanted it to be stringent.
We will ask Paul Eggert if he can help us cleanup the wording
as suggested in http://www.opengroup.org/austin/mailarchives/ag/msg09158.html.

XCU ERN 55 IFS Accept

This is an interpretation

XCU ERN 57 mv OPEN

Leave open for now
                                                                                
Don suggested as an alternative to the first suggested change
as follows:
                                                                                
If the destination path exists and was created by a previous step it is
implementation-defined whether this will treated as an error or the destination
path will be overwritten.
                                                                                
We need to consider this with -f and -i and require some explicit
behavior



Next Steps
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Andrew  will update the aardvark reports with the latest inbound
defect reports.
The next call will be 23rd March

irc://irc.freestandards.org/austin


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