Minutes of the 26th October 2020 Teleconference Austin-1075 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 28th October 2020 Attendees: Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev Geoff Clare, The Open Group Richard Hansen Joerg Schilling, FOKUS Fraunhofer Apologies: Andrew Josey, The Open Group Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR Tom Thompson, IEEE Eric Ackermann, HPI, University of Potsdam * General news A reminder to all that for those in Europe the clocks changed last weekend and the calls this week are one hour earlier. The calls as always are anchored on US time. * Outstanding actions (Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes - to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes from 13th June 2019 and earlier) Bug 1254: "asynchronous list" description uses "command" instead of "AND-OR list" OPEN https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1254 Action: Joerg to investigate how his shell behaves. Bug 700 - Nick to raise this issue with the C committee Bug 713 - Nick to raise with the C committee. Bug 739 - Nick to raise with the C committee. * Current Business Bug 1325: Allow make to remake an included file Reopened https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1325 This item was closed, see bug note 05066 included below, but has subsequently been reopened. Bugnote 5066 In Issue 8 draft 1 page 2892 lines 97098-97102 (make extended description), change: If the file does not exist in this location, it is unspecified whether additional directories are searched. If the file cannot be opened, and if the word include was prefixed with a character, the file shall be ignored. Otherwise, if the file cannot be opened an error shall occur. to: If a target rule or inference rule for the pathname has been parsed before the include line is parsed make shall use the rule to attempt to create the file or to bring it up to date before opening the file. If the pathname is relative, the file does not exist, and it cannot be created using such a rule, it is unspecified whether additional directories are searched for an existing file of the same relative pathname. If, after applying such a rule (if any), the file cannot be opened, and if the word include was prefixed with a character, the file shall be ignored. Otherwise, if the file cannot be opened an error shall occur. In issue 8 draft 1 page 2911 after line 97926 (make rationale), insert a new paragraph: This standard specifies that if a target rule or inference rule for an include line pathname has been parsed before the include line is parsed, make will use the rule to attempt to create the file or to bring it up to date before opening the file. Historical versions of GNU make delay the use of the rule until after all makefiles have been read, which means that a rule for an include file cannot be defined in an earlier include file (that itself needs to be made via a rule). Historical versions of BSD make do not attempt to (re-)make the include file. This standard also specifies that an include file is first (re-)made if possible, and only if not possible can other directories be searched. Historical versions of GNU make first search the include directories, then attempt to (re-)make the include file(s) in reverse order of the include line's appearance in the makefile. Bug 1329: Problem in resolution of 0000793: "Regular Expressions: add REG_MINIMAL and a minimum repitition modifier" OPEN https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1329 We looked briefly at this bug. We will start on this bug at the next meeting. Gettext draft. We will return to this on a future call. The gettext draft in the etherpad is at https://posix.rhansen.org/p/gettext_draft https://posix.rhansen.org/p/gettext_split Next Steps ---------- The next calls are on: October 29th 2020 (Thursday) This call will be for 90 minutes. November 2nd 2020 (Monday) NOT YET CONFIRMED This call will be for 60 minutes. Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) Apologies in advance: Eric Blake, 2020-10-29 Eric Ackermann, 2020-10-29 Tom Thompson, 2020-10-29 Please check the calendar invites for dial in details. Bugs are at: https://austingroupbugs.net An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below: https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd (For write access this uses The Open Group single sign on, for those individuals with gitlab.opengroup.org accounts. Please contact Andrew if you need to be setup)