Minutes of the 4th January 2021 Teleconference     Austin-1090 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 5th January 2021

Attendees:
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev.
    Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
    Andrew Josey,  The Open Group
    Eric Ackermann, HPI, University of Potsdam
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    Richard Hansen
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
    Joerg Schilling


Apologies:
    Tom Thompson, IEEE


* General news 

Andrew noted that the New APIs for Issue 8 company review period
has ended at The Open Group and will be moving to issue resolution
and a ballot next.


* Outstanding actions

(Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes -
to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes
from 13th June 2019 and earlier)

Bug 1254: "asynchronous list" description uses "command" instead of "AND-OR list" OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1254
Action: Joerg to investigate how his shell behaves.

Bug 700 - Nick to raise this issue with the C committee
Bug 713 - Nick to raise with the C committee.
Bug 739 - Nick to raise with the C committee.


* Current Business


Bug 1382: Ambiguous statement in asin() and other math functions        Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1382

This item is tagged for TC3-2008.


In the Dec 17th teleconference it was felt that changing the wording so there is only one shading change instead of two would improve the readability, but we ran out of time to check for all of the affected places. I have now looked through the resolution of bug 0000068 and can confirm that the functions listed in the description here are the only ones where an unwanted paragraph break was inserted when the shading changed from one margin code to another.

Proposed changes...

At P603 L20995 (asin), P605 L21059 (asinh), P609 L21166 (atan),
P615 L21324 (atanh), P802 L27261 (expm1), P1276 L42602 (log1p),
P1993 L64163 (sin), P1995 L64237 (sinh), P2112 L67777 (tan) and
P2115 L67865 (tanh), change:

    [MX] If x is subnormal, a range error may occur[/MX]
    [MXX] and x should be returned.[/MXX]

    [MX] If x is not returned, asin(), asinf(), and asinl() shall
    return an implementation-defined value no greater in magnitude
    than DBL_MIN, FLT_MIN, and LDBL_MIN, respectively.[/MX]

to (substituting the appropriate function names for asin(), asinf() and asinl()):

    [MXX]If x is subnormal, x should be returned.[/MXX]
    [MX]If x is subnormal, a range error may occur and, if x is not
    returned, asin(), asinf(), and asinl() shall return an
    implementation-defined value no greater in magnitude than
    DBL_MIN, FLT_MIN, and LDBL_MIN, respectively.[/MX]


Note to the editor: where the shading changes from MXX to MX, use a line break (.br) not a paragraph break (.P).


Bug 1384: Subshell of an interactive shell is effectively non-interactive OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1384

We started on this item and will continue next time.

Gettext draft.

We will return to this on a future call.

The gettext draft in the etherpad is at

https://posix.rhansen.org/p/gettext_draft
https://posix.rhansen.org/p/gettext_split

Next Steps 
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The next calls are on:

January 7th 2020 (Thursday)
This call will be for 90 minutes.

January 11th 2021 (Monday) 
This call will be for 60 minutes.

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) 

Apologies in advance:
    Don Cragun, 2021-01-25
    Eric Ackermann, 2021-01-07

Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.

Bugs are at:
https://austingroupbugs.net

An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below:

https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd

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