Minutes of the 11th January 2021 Teleconference     Austin-1093 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 13th January 2021

Attendees:
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Joerg Schilling
    Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev.
    Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
    Eric Ackermann, HPI, University of Potsdam
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    Richard Hansen

Apologies:
    Tom Thompson, IEEE


* General news 

Nick may not be available on the 18th. We may have to use a different meeting bridge.
We will advise after Thursday.


* Outstanding actions

(Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes -
to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes
from 13th June 2019 and earlier)

Bug 1254: "asynchronous list" description uses "command" instead of "AND-OR list" OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1254
Action: Joerg to investigate how his shell behaves.

Bug 700 - Nick to raise this issue with the C committee
Bug 713 - Nick to raise with the C committee.
Bug 739 - Nick to raise with the C committee.


* Current Business

Bug 1384: Subshell of an interactive shell is effectively non-interactive  Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1384

This item is tagged for TC3-2008

On page 2382 line 76195 section 2.12 Shell Execution Environment,
after applying bug 1247 change:
    A subshell environment shall be created as a duplicate of the
    shell environment, except that traps that are not being ignored
    shall be set to the default action.

to:
    A subshell environment shall be created as a duplicate of the
    shell environment, except that:

	Unless specified otherwise (see [xref to trap]), traps that
	are not being ignored shall be set to the default action.

	If the shell is interactive, the subshell shall behave as
	a non-interactive shell in all respects except:
	    The expansion of the special parameter '-' and the
	    output of <tt>set -o</tt> and <tt>set +o</tt> shall
	    continue to indicate that it is interactive.  The <tt>set
	    -n</tt> option may be ignored.


On page 2411 line 77159 (XCU 2.14 set -n) change:
    An interactive shell may ignore this option.
to:
    Interactive shells and subshells of interactive shells, recursively, may ignore this option.


Bug 1385: unlink() text needs updating to account for mmap()        Accepted
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1385

This item is tagged for TC3-2008

Gettext draft.

We will return to this on a future call.

The gettext draft in the etherpad is at

https://posix.rhansen.org/p/gettext_draft
https://posix.rhansen.org/p/gettext_split

Next Steps 
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The next calls are on:

January 14th 2020 (Thursday)
This call will be for 90 minutes.

January 18th 2021 (Monday) 
This call will be for 60 minutes.

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) 

Apologies in advance:
    Don Cragun, 2021-01-25

Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.

Bugs are at:
https://austingroupbugs.net

An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below:

https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd

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