Minutes of the 18th March 2021 Teleconference Austin-1113 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 19th March 2021 Attendees: Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR Geoff Clare, The Open Group Joerg Schilling Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev. Andrew Josey, The Open Group Apologies: Eric Ackermann, HPI, University of Potsdam Tom Thompson, IEEE * General news Reminder:the USA switched to Daylight Saving Time on March 14, the UK and EU on March 28. All calls are anchored on US time, so calls between March 14 and 28 will be one hour earlier than normal in the UK and EU. * Outstanding actions (Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes - to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes from 13th June 2019 and earlier) Bug 1254: "asynchronous list" description uses "command" instead of "AND-OR list" OPEN https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1254 Action: Joerg to investigate how his shell behaves. Bug 700 - Nick to raise this issue with the C committee Bug 713 - Nick to raise with the C committee. Bug 739 - Nick to raise with the C committee. * Current Business Bug 1406: clarification of SEEK_END when current pointer doesn't match buffer size OPEN https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1406 We are still waiting for input from implementations on this item before proceeding. Bug 1429: recvfrom does not specify the errno on timeout when the SO_RCVTIMEO option has been set Accepted as Marked https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1429 This item is tagged for TC3-2008 On page 1793, libes 58071-58074 section recv(), change: If no messages are available at the socket and O_NONBLOCK is not set on the socket’s file descriptor, recv( ) shall block until a message arrives. to: If no messages are available at the socket and O_NONBLOCK is not set on the socket’s file descriptor, recv( ) shall block until a message arrives or a timeout occurs (see SO_RCVTIMEO in [xref to section 2.10.16]). On page 1794 line 58081 section recv() ERRORS, append: See also SO_RCVTIMEO in [xref to section 2.10.16]. On page 1794 at line 58111 add setsockopt() to the "SEE ALSO" list. On page 1797 lines 58170-58173 section recvfrom(), change: If no messages are available at the socket and O_NONBLOCK is not set on the socket’s file descriptor, recvfrom( ) shall block until a message arrives. to: If no messages are available at the socket and O_NONBLOCK is not set on the socket’s file descriptor, recvfrom( ) shall block until a message arrives or a timeout occurs (see SO_RCVTIMEO in [xref to section 2.10.16]). On page 1797 line 58185 section recvfrom() ERRORS, append: See also SO_RCVTIMEO in [xref to section 2.10.16]. On page 1798 at line 58208 add setsockopt() to the "SEE ALSO" list. On page 1799 lines 58251-58252 section recvmsg(), change: If no messages are available at the socket and O_NONBLOCK is not set on the socket’s file descriptor, recvmsg( ) shall block until a message arrives. to: If no messages are available at the socket and O_NONBLOCK is not set on the socket’s file descriptor, recvmsg( ) shall block until a message arrives or a timeout occurs (see SO_RCVTIMEO in [xref to section 2.10.16]). On page 1800 line 58284 section recvmsg() ERRORS, append: See also SO_RCVTIMEO in [xref to section 2.10.16]. On page 1801 at line 58310 add setsockopt() to the "SEE ALSO" list. On page 1877 line 60823-60825 section send(), change: If space is not available at the sending socket to hold the message to be transmitted, and the socket file descriptor does not have O_NONBLOCK set, send( ) shall block until space is available. to: If space is not available at the sending socket to hold the message to be transmitted, and the socket file descriptor does not have O_NONBLOCK set, send( ) shall block until space is available or a timeout occurs (see SO_SNDTIMEO in [xref to section 2.10.16]). On page 1877 line 60837 section send() ERRORS, append: See also SO_SNDTIMEO in [xref to section 2.10.16]. On page 1881 lines 60918-60920 section sendmsg(), change: If space is not available at the sending socket to hold the message to be transmitted, and the socket file descriptor does not have O_NONBLOCK set, sendmsg( ) shall block until space is available. to: If space is not available at the sending socket to hold the message to be transmitted, and the socket file descriptor does not have O_NONBLOCK set, sendmsg( ) shall block until space is available or a timeout occurs (see SO_SNDTIMEO in [xref to section 2.10.16]). On page 1881 line 60934 section sendmsg() ERRORS, append: See also SO_SNDTIMEO in [xref to section 2.10.16]. On page 1884 line 61051-61054 section sendto(), change: If space is not available at the sending socket to hold the message to be transmitted and the socket file descriptor does not have O_NONBLOCK set, sendto( ) shall block until space is available. to: If space is not available at the sending socket to hold the message to be transmitted, and the socket file descriptor does not have O_NONBLOCK set, sendto( ) shall block until space is available or a timeout occurs (see SO_SNDTIMEO in [xref to section 2.10.16]). On page 1885 line 61066 section sendto() ERRORS, append: See also SO_SNDTIMEO in [xref to section 2.10.16]. Bug 1430: Text about interleaving data should say thread not process Accepted https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1430 This item is tagged for TC3-2008 Bug 1431: Incorrect xref for shell function lookup in specification of the 'command' utility Accepted https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1431 This item is tagged for TC3-2008 Bug 1433: The use of carriage-return in pr Accepted as marked https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1433 This item is tagged for TC3-2008 An interpretation is required. Interpretation response: The standard states thar pr waits for , and conforming implementations must conform to this. However, concerns have been raised about this which are being referred to the sponsor. Rationale: This is not the way any implementation works and conflicts with similar requirements for other utilities. Notes to the Editor (not part of this interpretation): On page 3108 line 103918 section pr, change: to: Bug 1434: Moving the -p option in the pr utility synopsis Accepted as Marked https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1434 This item is tagged for TC3-2008 Change: [−adFmrt] to: [−adfFmprt] with XSI shading on just the "f" character. Delete "[ −fp]" Bug 1435: execlp and execvp should not execute a command interpreter when other members of the exec family would fail with ENOEXEC OPEN https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1435 We started on this item and will return to this item next time. Gettext draft. We will return to this on a future call. The gettext draft in the etherpad is at https://posix.rhansen.org/p/gettext_draft https://posix.rhansen.org/p/gettext_split Next Steps ---------- The next calls are on: March 22nd 2021 (Monday) This call will be for 60 minutes. March 25th 2020 (Thursday) This call will be for 90 minutes. Apologies in advance: Eric Ackermann, Thu 2021-03-18 until Thu 2021-03-25 Tom Thompson, 2021-03-25 Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) Note that the US clocks will change on March 14th 2021. Please check the calendar invites for dial in details. Bugs are at: https://austingroupbugs.net An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below: https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd (For write access this uses The Open Group single sign on, for those individuals with gitlab.opengroup.org accounts. Please contact Andrew if you need to be setup)