Minutes of the 4th August 2022 Teleconference    Austin-1245 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Geoff Clare, The Open Group.        5th August 2022

Attendees:
   Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
   Nick Stoughton, Logitech/USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
   Eric Ackermann, HPI, University of Potsdam
   Geoff Clare, The Open Group
   Tom Thompson, IEEE
   Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev.
   Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR

Apologies:
   Andrew Josey, The Open Group

* General news

This was a call dedicated to general bugs.

* Current Business

Bug 1122: POSIX should include gettext() and friends OPEN
and https://posix.rhansen.org/p/gettext_draft
Also https://austingroupbugs.net/file_download.php?file_id=64&type=bug

Geoff's addition to XRAT appendix E was noted.
A new PDF will be needed, but we will wait for more comments first.

To be discussed again when more comments are raised. 

Bug 1560: clarify wording of command substitution
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1560
Leave this and related bugs 1561 and 1564 open awaiting reviews/discussion.

Bug 1273: glob()'s GLOB_ERR/errfunc and non-directory files OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1273
We will leave this open awaiting feedback.

Bug 792: better definition of thread lifetime   Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=792

This item is tagged for Issue 8.

Geoff completed his action to supply updated wording.  See bugnote 5923.

Bug 770: Add support for .ONESHELL in make   Rejected
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=770

Several issues have been raised in the comments to this bug.  They were
discussed during the 2022-08-04 conference call.  We agree that the
ability to treat a group of lines as a single group without the need of
backslash terminating initial lines would make it easier to read and
write makefiles.  It is not clear that there is any consensus to add
this feature in a consistent manner across common implementations, and
there is significant difference in the manner in which existing makes
implement something like this.

If the submitter would like to update this proposal to provide a syntax
and complete description that will be (or has been) implemented by GNU,
*BSDs, and Illumos, we would be happy to see that proposal in a new bug
report.  Otherwise, we do not believe that this proposal is ready for
standardization and we are rejecting this bug for now.

Bug 768: add "fd-private" POSIX locks to spec   OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=768

A separate etherpad page was created to work on wording for this bug
at https://posix.rhansen.org/p/bug768

Action on Eric B. to adapt the GNU documentation for OFD locks into
an initial set of changes for us to work on.

We will pick up on this item once Eric has completed his action.


Next Steps
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The next calls are on:
   Mon 2022-08-08 (general bugs)  gettext is complete, but may be discussed again if comments are added
   Thu 2022-08-11 (general bugs)

Apologies in Advance:
   Andrew Josey 2022-08-08

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