Minutes of the 9th March 2023 Teleconference    Austin-1297 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.         10th March 2023

Attendees:
    Nick Stoughton, Logitech/USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR 
    Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev.
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR  
    Eric Ackermann, HPI, University of Potsdam
    Tom Thompson, IEEE


* General news

We discussed the IEEE MEC comments. Geoff has completed most of the
specific word usage issues. We noted that IEEE now requires a
Language Usage clause covering shall, should, may, and can. We
will add this to the next draft so we can get feedback in the ballot.
We think it will be able to co-exist with the current 1.5 Terminology
clause. We noted that the MEC instructions to make the draft
copyright IEEE are incorrect as it is joint copyright.  Some of the
headers/footers for the draft will be applied using a pdf stamp as
part of final pdf production.

We anticipdate having the draft ready in the next 10-14 days.


* Carried Forward

This section trimmed -- see Austin/1264

Bug 1406: clarification of SEEK_END when current pointer doesn't match buffer size OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1406 

Actions carried forward:

ACTION: Andrew to contact Rich Felker (dalias) and Alan Coopersmith (Solaris) for feedback. 
Completed
ACTION: Eric B to contact glibc folks.

Bug 1616: Standardize mktemp utility OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1616

We will need a sponsor; it is not suitable for inclusion in Issue 8.
ACTION: Eric to ask The Open Group to sponsor adding the mktemp utility
(for Issue 9).

Bug 1291: Add method to obtain pthread attributes OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1291

Needs additional details and sponsor for Issue 9

Bug 0000251: Forbid newline, or even bytes 1 through 31 (inclusive), in filenames  OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=251

(brought forward)
Don has an action to produce a proposal.

Bug 1622: Standardize getpeereid function OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1622

Action: Eric B to ask The Open Group if they are willing to sponsor this function for Issue 9.

* Current Business


Bug 1630: Alias names
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1630 OPEN

We discussed this at length and a proposal has been entered into the etherpad
for feedback.
See https://posix.rhansen.org/p/2023-02-27


Bug 1635: iconv: please be more explicit in input-not-convertible case OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1635

We continued discussions.
Action item: Eric B to forward to Bruno Haible with links to bug 1007 and 1635.
Completed after meeting.

Bug 1629: Shell vs. read(2) errors on the script OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1629

A new proposed resolution was posted as https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1629#c6196

We will start at bug 1635 next time.

Next Steps
----------
The next calls are on:
   Mon 2023-03-13 (general bugs)
   Thu 2023-03-16 (general bugs)
The calls are for 90 minutes

Apologies in advance:
	Andrew Josey 2023-03-13, 2023-03-16

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific)

Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.

Bugs are at:
https://austingroupbugs.net

An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below:

https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd

(For write access this uses The Open Group single sign on,
for those individuals with gitlab.opengroup.org accounts.
Please contact Andrew if you need to be setup)