Minutes of the 26th June 2023 Teleconference Austin-1322 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 26th June 2023 Attendees: Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR Nick Stoughton, Logitech/USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR (partial) Andrew Josey, The Open Group Geoff Clare, The Open Group Eric Ackermann, HPI, University of Potsdam Tom Thompson, IEEE Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev. Apologies Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR * General news The call on Monday July 10 will be a Webex meeting. Geoff reported back on the WG14 meeting. The decisions made on our latest C23 ballot comments were as follows. Bug 1022 (fputwc) accepted Bug 1614 (mktime tm_year/tm_wday) accepted (with an extra change for timegm) Bug 1647 (printf %lc) accepted option 1 We will circle back to these issues after the d3 issue resolution. * Current Business Note for issue resolution all items are tagged for Issue 8 unless noted otherwise or disposition is reject or duplicate. Bug 1703: Replace at-sign with Accepted https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1703 Bug 1704: Use simpler wording for '+' prefix character Accepted https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1704 Bug 1705: Use 'to [the] standard output' consistently Rejected https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1705 There is no ambiguity in the current wording. Making this change would be a huge amount of work for almost no gain (and standard output is just the tip of the iceberg). Bug 1706: Remove 'line that does not begin with ' from the syntax for a rule Accepted as Marked https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1706 Delete line 104771. Bug 1707: Clarify meaning of 'use' Accepted as Marked https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1707 On Page 3110 line 104786 Replace: If the makefile uses this special target with: If the makefile contains this special target Bug 1708: Use consistent wording for special targets Accepted as Marked https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1708 On page 3110 line 104799 replace shall also apply these rules to the additional targets. with shall add to the list of phony targets. Bug 1709: Specify handling of '#' in macro definitions Accepted as Marked https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1709 Delete lines 104882-104885. Bug 1710: Evaluate delayed-expansion macros in '!=' macro definition Accepted as Marked https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1710 On page 3113 line 104928 change: Delayed-expansion macros after the in a macro definition shall not be evaluated until the defined macro is used in a rule or command, or before the in a macro definition. to: Delayed-expansion macros after the in macro definitions other than the :::=, !=, and += forms, and after the in += form macro definitions where the macro named by string1 exists and is a delayed-expansion macro, shall not be evaluated until the defined macro is used in any of the following ways: in a rule or command before the in a macro definition after the in a :::= or != form macro definition after the in a += form macro definition where the macro named by string1 exists and is an immediate-expansion macro. We will continue with Issue 8 Draft 3 ballot resolution on the next call. The next item is There is feedback on bug 1610. Bug 1711: Reword 'as described above' https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1711 Next Steps ---------- The next call is on: Thu 2023-06-29 (general bugs/ballot resolution) No calls on July 3rd or July 6th Mon 2023-07-10 (WEBEX meeting: general bugs/ballot resolution) The calls are for 90 minutes Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) Apologies in Advance: Eric Blake: June 15 through July 6 Please check the calendar invites for dial in details. Bugs are at: https://austingroupbugs.net An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below: https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd (For write access this uses The Open Group single sign on, for those individuals with gitlab.opengroup.org accounts. Please contact Andrew if you need to be setup)