Minutes of the 31st August 2023 Teleconference    Austin-1341 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.         31st August 2023

Attendees:
   Nick Stoughton, Logitech/USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR 
   Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
   Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev. 
   Andrew Josey, The Open Group 
   Geoff Clare, The Open Group
   Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
   Eric Ackermann, HPI, University of Potsdam

Apologies
   Tom Thompson

* General news

A reminder that there is no meeting on 2023-09-04 as this is a US holiday.

* Current Business

Note for issue resolution all items are tagged for Issue 8 unless
noted otherwise or disposition is reject or duplicate.

Bug 1771: support or reserve %q as printf-utility format specifier  Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1771      

Note: https://debbugs.gnu.org/65659 has been opened against GNU
Coreutils to get their feedback.

On page 2793 line 92597-92599 section echo, add a sentence after
the example:
    However, this usage of %b with the printf utility is now
    obsolescent, and applications desiring escape sequence processing
    on non-XSI implementations should instead place escape sequences
    (other than \c) to be processed in the format string of the
    printf utility.

On page 3269 line 111000-111019 section printf, add OB shading to
list item 7 (b conversion)

On page 3271 line 111104 section printf, change:
    The %b conversion specification is not part of the ISO C standard;
    it has been added here as a portable way to process <backslash>-escapes
    expanded in string operands as provided by the echo utility.
    See also the APPLICATION USAGE section of [xref to echo] for
    ways to use printf as a replacement for all of the traditional
    versions of the echo utility.
to:
    The %b conversion was originally added as a portable way to
    process <backslash>-escapes expanded in string operands as
    provided by the echo utility on XSI implementations. However,
    it will conflict with the next version of the ISO C standard,
    which is adding it for binary output of integers, and has
    consequently been marked obsolescent.


After page 3275 line 111227 section printf, add two paragraphs to
FUTURE DIRECTIONS:
    A future version of this standard may change the %b conversion
    to a binary conversion in alignment with the next version of
    the ISO C standard. It is recommended that implementations treat
    the "%#s" conversion specification, which is undefined by this
    standard, as a synonym for the current "%b" behavior; this can
    then be added in a future version of this standard once there
    is existing practice.

    A future version of this standard may add a %q or %Q conversion
    (or both) to convert a string argument to a quoted output format
    that can be reused as shell input.

Next Steps
----------
We will pick up on bug 251 next time (if Don's proposal is ready)

The next call is on:

  Thu 2023-09-07 (Zoom meeting - general bugs/ballot resolution)
  Mon 2023-09-11 (Zoom meeting - general bugs/ballot resolution)


Apologies in advance:
    Geoff Clare 2023-09-11 through 2023-09-28, maybe 2023-10-02

The calls are for 90 minutes

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific)

Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.


Bugs are at:
https://austingroupbugs.net

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