Minutes of the 15th January 2024 Teleconference    Austin-1376 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.         17th January 2024

Attendees:
    Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR
    Nick Stoughton, Logitech/USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev.
    Eric Ackermann 
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
    Levon Tumanyan

Apologies
    Tom Thompson, IEEE
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group

* General news

Draft 4 is still in review at The Open Group and IEEE,
with the review closing on January 31 2024. No comments
have been received as yet.

We discussed when the ISO/IEC draft is due to go to ballot.
Andrew and Nick noted that is expected to be after the 
ballot on approving the use of line numbers concludes and that they would
check with Bill Ash.


* Current Business

Bug 1789: if command name contains slash, it cannot be arg0 for execl() Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1789


On page 865 line 29495, 29499 change: (D4 p877 line 29519)
    ... should point to a filename string that is associated with
    the process being started by one of the exec functions.
to:
    ... should point to a string that is associated with the with
    the filename of the process being started by one of the exec
    functions.

and add to Application Usage, page 872 after line 29773: (D4 p874 line 29796)
    The string in arg0 or argv[0] is typically the basename of the
    path of the file being executed. However, there is no requirement
    in this standard that this is so, and the program executed will
    see this string in the first element of the argv[] array passed
    to its main() function, and may alter its functionality based
    on this.

On page 872 Rationale, line 29785, change (D4 p874 line 29808)
    ... the first argument be a filename string associated with the
    process being started. Although some existing applications pass
    a pathname rather than a filename string in some circumstances,
    a filename string is more generally useful, since the common
    usage of argv[0] is in printing diagnostics. In some cases the
    filename passed is not the actual filename of the file; for
    example, many implementations of the login utility use a
    convention of prefixing a <hyphen-minus> ('-') to the actual
    filename, which indicates to the command interpreter being
    invoked that it is a ``login shell’’.
to:
    ... the first argument be simply a string associated with the
    filename of the process being started. Most applications pass
    a filename string or a pathname string, a filename string is
    more generally useful, since the common usage of argv[0] is in
    printing diagnostics. In some cases the filename in the string
    passed is not the actual filename of the file; for example,
    many implementations of the login utility use a convention of
    prefixing a <hyphen-minus> ('-') to the actual filename, which
    indicates to the command interpreter being invoked that it is
    a ``login shell’’.


Bug 1790: More info on *ALT* constants
https://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1790

We will continue on this item on the next call.

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