Minutes of the 11th March 2024 Teleconference    Austin-1391 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.         13th March 2024

Attendees:
    Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR
    Nick Stoughton, Logitech/USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev.
    Eric Ackermann, CISPA
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
   
Apologies
    Paul Eggert

* General news

A reminder that the US has switched to daylight saving time.
The meetings for the next three weeks will be one hour earlier for
attendees in Europe.

The sanity review at The Open Group completed March 8th, no comments were received.
The next stage is the Board review.

The html conversion is still to be completed.

Paul Eggert is unable to attend today. [After the meeting he confirmed next
availability as March 20th]

* Current Business


1797: strftime "%s" should be able to examine tm_gmtoff OPEN
https://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1797

We will continue this item next time that Paul is available.


1798: Must posix_getdents remember file offsets across exec? Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1798

Although closed previously, a discussion occurred during the meeting as follows:

    If an application does something like:

    dir1 = opendir(dirname);
    fd = dirfd(dir1);
    dirent1 = readdir(dir1);
    dir2 = fdopendir(fd);
    dirent2 = readdir(dir2);

Does the standard require that dirent2 either report end-of-file
or point to a directory entry that is not contained in the buffer
used by dir1?  And if both readdir(dir1) and readdir(dir2) continue
to be used by a single thread and resinddir() is not called, are
the directory entries returned by those readdir()s required to
provide non-overlapping access to all of the directory entries in
the directory named by dirname (subject to the constraints aboiut
newluy added files might not be found by readir() on either stream
and deleted files might be found by a readdir() on one of them after
the file has been deleted)?

Furthermore, if the readdir() calls are replaced by posix_getdents()
calls using dup()ed file descriptors referring to the same file
description, posix_getdents()s calls (using dirrerent buffers and
different file descriptors) are  required to fill the buffers with
complete disjoint entries for the directory (with the same constraints
about recently added and deleted files)?

This discussion took the whole meeting.
        

Next Steps
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The next call is on:
  Thu 2024-03-14 (Zoom meeting - general bugs)
  Mon 2024-03-18 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)

The calls are for 90 minutes

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific)

Apologies in advance:

Geoff Clare 2024-03-18

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