Minutes of the 21st November 2024 Teleconference    Austin-1437 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.        21st November 2024

Attendees:
   Andrew Josey, The Open Group
   Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR
   Eric Ackermann, CISPA
   Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
   Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
   Tom Thompson, IEEE

Apologies
   Geoff Clare, The Open Group

A reminder that there is no call on November 28th as it is US Thanksgiving.

Andrew reported that the draft PAR for the TC was still undergoing ballot
in the IEEE MSC. (Note that at the end of the meeting we heard 
that it has passed its ballot).

Andrew reported that Mark Brown has let us know he plans to work
on updating the Mantis installation early next year as part of
addressing the duplicate emails issue that has been observed.


* Current Business

Bug 1876: clarify, whether a trap action that is executed from a   OPEN
context where set -e is ignored, would have set -e ignored, too
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1876

Andrew took an action to ask shell developers to comment on this issue.
(completed by sending an email to the reflector: austin-group-l:archive/latest/37925).

Bug 1877: ISO editors Issue 8 comment 068   Accepted
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1877

This item is tagged for TC1-2024

Bug 1878: ISO editors Issue 8 comments 061+072   Accepted as Marked
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1878

This item is tagged for TC1-2024

Make the changes suggested in the Desired action as modified by the
correction noted in bugnote 6967 and the following:

In:
    On page 99 line 3019 section 4.13 Host and Network Byte Orders, change:
        Bits might not be allocated to bytes in any obvious order at all
    to:
        It is possible that bits are not be allocated to bytes in any obvious order at all.

Change "are not be allocated" to "are not allocated".

On page 131 lines 4249-4251 instead of making the change suggested in the Desired Action change:
    Such a definition would not be a proper superset of the C or
    POSIX locale and, thus, it might not be possible for conforming
    applications to work properly.
to:
    Such a definition would not be a proper superset of the C or
    POSIX locale and consequently it is possible that a conforming
    utility or application does not behave as described in this
    standard.



Next Steps 
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The next calls are on
No call on US Thanksgiving (2024-11-28)
 Thu 2024-12-05 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)
 Thu 2024-11-12 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)


The calls are for 90 minutes

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific)

Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.

Bugs are at:
https://austingroupbugs.net

An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date
format as below:

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