Minutes of the 16th January 2025 Teleconference    Austin-1442 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.        18th January 2025

Attendees:
    Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    Eric Ackermann, CISPA
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR


We confirmed the calendar for upcoming meetings adding a meeting
on January 30th.

There is no change in status of progress with ISO approval
although Andrew reported that he had held a call with 
IEEE regarding the PSDO path to ISO, and will hold further
discussions on that matter.

The PAR for the TC1 is scheduled for the Jan 29th IEEE RevCom meeting.

Andrew and Don Cragun had attended  MSC meeting  held on January
14th. There were no items that would impact us.

* Open Business

Bug 1876: clarify, whether a trap action that is executed from a   OPEN
context where set -e is ignored, would have set -e ignored, too
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1876

Andrew took an action to ask shell developers to comment on this issue.
(completed by sending an email to the reflector: austin-group-l:archive/latest/37925).

* Current Business


Bug 1894: Return value for bind_textdomain_codeset() is ambiguous
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1894
AI: Andrew to contact Bruno for input on this issue. (completed)
Bruno responded with bugnote:7041.
Accepted as marked, interpretation required, tc1-2024 tag.


Bug 1900: cosmetic: implementors vs. implementers
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1900 OPEN

Andrew had discussed with the IEEE editors. They would not want to
change their template, although it is not clear if this rules
out us changing this instance. We would prefer not to have
to change the larger number of occurrences.

Bug 1901: sigaction() incorrectly states (sig)longjmp are not in the list of async-signal-safe functions
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1901
Accepted as marked, resolved, tc1-2024 tag.

On page 2046 line 67134 section sigaction(), change:
    <blockquote>Note that <i>longjmp</i>() and <i>siglongjmp</i>()
    are not in the list of async-signal-safe functions. This is
    because the code executing after <i>longjmp</i>() and
    <i>siglongjmp</i>() can call any unsafe functions with the same
    danger as calling those unsafe functions directly from the
    signal handler. Applications that use <i>longjmp</i>() and
    <i>siglongjmp</i>() from within signal handlers require rigorous
    protection in order to be portable.</blockquote>
to:
    <blockquote>Note that although <i>longjmp</i>() and <i>siglongjmp</i>()
    are in the list of async-signal-safe functions, it is recommended
    that applications do not call them from signal handlers. See
    the DESCRIPTION and APPLICATION USAGE for [xref to
    longjmp()].</blockquote>


Next Steps 
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The next calls are on
 Thu 2025-01-23 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)
 Thu 2025-01-30 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)

Apologies in Advance:
    Geoff Clare, 2025-01-30
    Nick Stoughton 2025-02-06, 2025-02-13


The calls are for 90 minutes

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific)

Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.

Bugs are at:
https://austingroupbugs.net

An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date
format as below:

https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd

(For write access this uses The Open Group single sign on,
for those individuals with gitlab.opengroup.org accounts.
Please contact Andrew if you need to be setup)