Minutes of the 10th April 2025 Teleconference Austin-1452 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 11th April 2025 Attendees: Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR Andrew Josey, The Open Group Geoff Clare, The Open Group Haelwenn Monnier, The Open Group Eric Ackermann, CISPA Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR Apologies Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR We confirmed the calendar for upcoming meetings, there is no meeting on April 17th, the next one after that being April 24th, then May 1st. Andrew reported that he and Don had attended the MSC meeting, and reported on current status (a copy of that report is added to the document register as Austin/1453) * Open Business Bug 1876: clarify, whether a trap action that is executed from a OPEN context where set -e is ignored, would have set -e ignored, too https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1876 Andrew took an action to ask shell developers to comment on this issue. (completed by sending an email to the reflector: austin-group-l:archive/latest/37925). Bug 864: Insufficient specification of storage requirements for synchronization objects https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=864 AI: Andrew to contact Rich Felker to determine whether or not items 1 an 4 have been resolved by section 2.9.9 and to get suggested wording for changes to address items 2 and 3. The action was completed, but no response received as yet. Bug 1904: LC_TIME era start_date (and end_date) possibly mis-specified https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1904 This was discussed during the 2025-02-13 meeting: Historically, there was no year 0 and the standard is worded to reflect this fact. Is this what implementation actually do? Andrew had completed an action to ask for input on what other implementations do and some feedback has been received so need to return to this on a future call. * Current Business We skipped over bug 1913 and will wait for feedback from Chet Ramey. Bug 1915: clarification of 2.6.5 field splitting of 2.5.2 special parameter $* https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1915 We need the shell authors to decide on this item. 2025-03-27: AI Andrew: Ask shell developers for guidance on requirements. The action from last week was completed and a response was received from Chet Ramey. Geoff took an action to reply to Chet's email adding clarifications (completed). As there were no new bugs we closed the meeting early. Next Steps We will start on bug 1913 next time. The next calls are on Thu 2025-04-17 NO MEETING Thu 2025-04-24 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs) Thu 2025-05-01 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs) The calls are for 90 minutes Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) Please check the calendar invites for dial in details. Bugs are at: https://austingroupbugs.net An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below: https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd (For write access this uses The Open Group single sign on, for those individuals with gitlab.opengroup.org accounts. Please contact Andrew if you need to be setup)