Minutes of the 1st May 2025 Teleconference    Austin-1455 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.        3rd April 2025

Attendees:
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group
    Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR
    Mark Brown
    Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR

Apologies
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    Eric Ackermann, CISPA

* General business

We confirmed the calendar for upcoming meetings, the next one is
May 8th, then May 15.

Andrew reported that the ISO ballot withdraw the 9945 project had
passed, and so this leaves it open for IEEE to submit the document
for ISO/IEC adoption via the PSDO process.


* Open Business

Bug 1876: clarify, whether a trap action that is executed from a   OPEN
context where set -e is ignored, would have set -e ignored, too
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1876

Andrew took an action to ask shell developers to comment on this
issue.  (completed by sending an email to the reflector:
austin-group-l:archive/latest/37925).

Bug 864: Insufficient specification of storage requirements for synchronization objects
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=864

AI: Andrew to contact Rich Felker to determine whether or not items
1 an 4 have been resolved by section 2.9.9 and to get suggested
wording for changes to address items 2 and 3.  The action was
completed, but no response received as yet.


Bug 1904: LC_TIME era start_date (and end_date) possibly mis-specified
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1904
This was discussed during the 2025-02-13 meeting:
    Historically, there was no year 0 and the standard is worded
    to reflect this fact.  Is this what implementation actually do?

Andrew had completed an action to ask for input on what other
implementations do and some feedback has been received so need to
return to this on a future call.


* Current Business


Bug 1915: clarification of 2.6.5 field splitting of 2.5.2 special parameter $*
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1915

We skipped over this one to wait until Geoff was in the meeting.

Bug 1919: Add \A and \z to regular expressions (at least EREs) Accepted as Marked
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1919

There had been further discussion on the mailing list.

Action item:
AI: Mark: Ask python developers if they would be willing to add \z
as a synonym for \Z in Python REs.  (Eric's contacts at Red Hat
suggest starting with https://discuss.python.org/)

Bug 1920: read -d '' on invalid text without -r and IFS=
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1920
Closed, withdrawn.

As requested by the submitter in bugnote:7155, this bug is being
marked withdrawn.  We will leave it to the submitter to add another
bug report for the related issue.


Bug 1921: A future C compilation interface needs to support "#embed"
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1921
Closed, resolution Future enhancement.

We can't add this feature as a requirement in the c17 utility since
this feature is not required by the 2017 C Standard.  When we start
work on the next revision we will align POSIX with the C Standard
that is current at that time.  Since  the 2023 version of the
standard contains this feature, it is already on the agenda for the
next revision.  Therefore, this bug is closed.


Next Steps 

We will start on bug 1915 next time.

The next calls are on
    Thu 2025-05-08 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)
    Thu 2025-05-15 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)

The calls are for 90 minutes

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific)


Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.

Bugs are at:
https://austingroupbugs.net

An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date
format as below:

https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd

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