Minutes of the 8th May 2025 Teleconference Austin-1456 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 9th May 2025 Attendees: Andrew Josey, The Open Group Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR Mark Brown Haelwenn Monnier, The Open Group Geoff Clare, The Open Group Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR Eric Ackermann, CISPA * General business We confirmed the calendar for upcoming meetings, the next one is May 15, then we will take a break until June 5th. Andrew noted that the project he is listed as leader for in the ISO directory is now ISO/IEC/IEEE 9945. He took an action to check on the status of the PSDO submission with Tom at IEEE. * Open Business Bug 1876: clarify, whether a trap action that is executed from a OPEN context where set -e is ignored, would have set -e ignored, too https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1876 Andrew took an action to ask shell developers to comment on this issue. (completed by sending an email to the reflector: austin-group-l:archive/latest/37925). Bug 864: Insufficient specification of storage requirements for synchronization objects https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=864 AI: Andrew to contact Rich Felker to determine whether or not items 1 an 4 have been resolved by section 2.9.9 and to get suggested wording for changes to address items 2 and 3. The action was completed, but no response received as yet. Bug 1904: LC_TIME era start_date (and end_date) possibly mis-specified https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1904 This was discussed during the 2025-02-13 meeting: Historically, there was no year 0 and the standard is worded to reflect this fact. Is this what implementation actually do? Andrew had completed an action to ask for input on what other implementations do and some feedback has been received so need to return to this on a future call. * Current Business Bug 1915: clarification of 2.6.5 field splitting of 2.5.2 special parameter $* https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1915 Accepted as marked, interpretation required, tc1-2024 tag. Bug 1919: Add \A and \z to regular expressions (at least EREs) Accepted as Marked https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1919 There is still some discussion on this item Mark had completed his action to contact the python developers. The Python community has decided to add \z for end-of-string (they already had \A for beginning-of-string), aligning Python with this proposal. We are getting ever closer to having a single notation for beginning-of-string and end-of-string across platforms. The Python developers rejected the \` and \' alternatives as they felt they were hard to read, difficult to use on GitHub, and conflicted with the general avoidance of backquotes in Python syntax. Bug 1924: New word splitting requirements inappropriate in locales with non-self-synchronising character encodings OPEN https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1924 We started on this item and there are proposed changes in the etherpa. We will continue next time. Next Steps We will start on bug 1924 next time. The next calls are on Thu 2025-05-15 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs) Thu 2025-05-22 No meeting Thu 2025-05-29 No meeting Thu 2025-06-05 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs) The calls are for 90 minutes Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) Please check the calendar invites for dial in details. Bugs are at: https://austingroupbugs.net An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below: https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd (For write access this uses The Open Group single sign on, for those individuals with gitlab.opengroup.org accounts. Please contact Andrew if you need to be setup)