Austin Group Minutes of the 27 January Teleconference Austin-244 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. January 28, 2005 Attendees Andrew Josey, The Open Group Loic Domaigne Mats Wichmann, Intel Joanna Farley Don Cragun , Sun, PASC OR Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC OR Mark Brown, IBM, TOG OR Apologies Ulrich Drepper, Red Hat Action item review (this is captured in Austin/240r1) ACTION AI-2005-01-01: Don Cragun to present paper on pathname resolution. Status: OPEN. ACTION AI-2005-01-02: Larry Dwyer to present proposal on system() and threads. Status: OPEN. ACTION AI-2005-01-03: Joerg Schilling to address issues in XCU ERN 1 (pax) Status: OPEN. ACTION AI-2005-01-04: AJ to prepare a slide showing the timeline of the POSIX standards based on one within Austin/235 Status: CLOSED Added as document Austin/243 (pdf) ACTION AI-2005-01-05: AJ to prepare draft document on impact of C99 TC2 on POSIX. Status: OPEN Ongoing, three pieces circulated so far for feedback. Eventually these will be coalesced into a single set of aardvark. Some areas, notably maths need more assitance, and Fred Tydeman has agred to look at these. Some changes appear purely editorial and will be filed as such later. One change in C99 TC2 is the example in localeconv which has changed from real country names to country1 .. country4. The example in our specification appears to have diverged some time back, and if its still correct should be left as is. ACTION AI-2005-01-06: AJ to contact Jack McCann at HP for views on getnameinfo document, and for any other networking issues that may concern us. Status: OPEN Ongoing. I did succeed in contacting Jack. His response follows: The getnameinfo() extensions are the only ones that come to mind, but I have not been following the IPv6 activity very closely, there could be other items. A similar e-mail to the IETF IPv6 working group (ipv6@ietf.org, I believe) might elicit better information than I can provide at this time. One other item you might consider: clarifying the behavior of getnameinfo() when called with an unspecified IPv6 address and with the NI_NUMERICHOST flag set. (separate mail sent to reflector). ACTION AI-2005-01-07: AJ to update AI-027 notes to the Editor and recirculate. Status: CLOSED ACTION AI-2005-01-08: AJ update the aardvark reports. Status: CLOSED ACTION AI-2005-01-09 Andrew Josey & Mats Wichmann to propose a time and place for a joint Austin group/LSB Workgroup meeting to consider LSB/POSIX conflicts, to be held as soon as conveniently possible. Status: OPEN ACTION AI-2005-01-10 AJ to find 1988 wording related to fflush() and fclose() here and update the proposed words, and recirculate AI002. Status: CLOSED ACTION AI-2005-01-11 All to review WG14 Security TR (N1093.pdf) and report to austin-group-l by 2005-03-01. http://www.opengroup.org/platform/single_unix_specification/uploads/40/6355/n1093.pdf Status: OPEN ACTION AI-2005-01-12 Larry Dwyer and Nick Stoughton to further investigate ACLs and propose next steps. Status: OPEN Nick reported that he has received some information from Larry and has further work to do. Defect Report Processing ------------------------- The group picked up on the latest batch of defect reports, which are available at the following URL: http://www.opengroup.org/austin/aardvark/latest/ XSH ERN 52 BUG in sched_setscheduler OPEN Loic has been working on a proposal with Dave Butenhof. See mail items 7823, 7824, 7827. He will send out a reminder to the reflector to solicit any final comments. XBD ERN 38 Bug in 3.114 Controlling Terminal Accept XBD ERN 38 Bug in signal.h ex-Legacy structure Accept as marked below The reviewers agreed that the sigstack structure should have been removed from this header at the same time as the former Legacy function sigstack() was removed. It was agreed to Delete page 307 100913-10916, XBD ERN 39 7.3.1 LC_CTYPE isspace Accept It was agreed that this should be handled as an interpretation (defect). Action: Andrew raise as Interp for XBD ERN 39 XCU ERN 50 ls -A proposed addition Accept as marked The reviewers agreed that this was a well formed proposal for a new addition to the standard. As it was proposing adding features to an existing interface the full criteria in Austin/112 need not apply. This item should be added to SD/5. It was noted that the final proposed change should be handled differently, that is it should be noted that ls -A did not appear in earlier versions of this standard, but had been added due to widespread implementation. Take the changes proposed apart from the last one , which instead should be Change page 577 lines 22298-22299: from The BSD ls provides a -A option (like -a, but dot and dot-dot are not written out). The small difference from -a did not seem important enough to require both. To: Earlier versions of this standard did not describe the BSD -A option (like -a, but dot and dot-dot are not written out). It has been added due to widespread implementation. XSH ERN 67 strftime %Y Accept as marked below The reviewers rejected this proposed change, since %Y is intentionally allowed to range from -ve to +ve > 9999 The following change to the APPLICATION USAGE for strptime page 1463 line 45613 should be made to remove the impression that %Y is four digit years: "Applications should use %Y (year including century) in preference to %y (2-digit years)." Next Steps ----------- Andrew will update the aardvark reports with the latest inbound defect reports. The next call is February 10 2005