Austin Group Minutes of the 15 Mar 2007 Teleconference Austin-355 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. March 16, 2007 Attendees Andrew Josey, The Open Group Geoff Clare, The Open group Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC OR Ulrich Drepper, Red Hat Don Cragun , Sun, PASC OR Apologies Mark Brown, IBM, TOG OR Action item review --------------------- ACTION AI-2005-01-01: Don Cragun to present paper on pathname resolution. OPEN ACTION AI-2006-09-02: Ulrich and Nick to develop a draft PAR and criteria for C++ POSIX binding for discussion, and to produce the Study Group final report by March 31. OPEN Action AI-2006-06-01: Andrew to work out the full set of changes for recirculation for XSH ERN 132 CLOSED (this is now incorporated into xshbug2.txt) ACTION 2007-02-01: Andrew Josey to make a pass through current closed aardvarks against approved std, to move items to SD-5 or interpretations when ready. OPEN ACTION 2007-02-02: Andrew Josey to talk to IEEE and ITTF about the name to use in the text: is POSIX.1:200x satisfactory to all? Closing: Andrew has raised the issue as part of the ISO project editor report, and also with individual mails to the IEEE Staff Editor, and also to Sally Seitz at ANSI (so we can raise it with the ISO editors). ACTION 2007-02-03: Nick to work with Cathy and Andrew to address cross reference issues. The document should be built as a single PDF book to aid in the production of cross document references. CLOSED ACTION 2007-02-04: Nick to provide Rationale for changes. CLOSED ACTION 2007-02-05: Nick to provide Rationale for changes for fcntl.h XBD ERN 39. CLOSED ACTION 2007-02-06: Ulrich to research issue 15 and propose text for XSH intro to explain directory searching, with special respect to the *at() functions. OPEN (Geoff has posted some mail on this, come back to this when Ulrich has the cycles) ACTION 2007-02-07: Nick to improve example for XSH ERN 42 CLOSED ACTION 2007-02-08: Mark Brown to produce sample pages with various ways of presenting c99 information, including synopsis changes, Geoff Clare's proposal, and no change, and to circulate these pages. OPEN ACTION 2007-02-09: ALL review sample c99 pages when available with an audience that includes non standards developers. OPEN (dependent on previous action) ACTION 2007-02-10: Nick Stoughton to develop a comprehensive set of aardvarks to capture all editing instructions relating to fine-grain timestamps by March 31. CLOSED Andrew has now generated separate aardvark reports for the fine grained timestamps changes. These are located at: https://www.opengroup.org/austin/aardvark/finegrain/ Many thanks to Nick for completing his action ( Action Item 2007-02-10). This is intended to replace all aardvarks against both D2R and the 2004 TC2 edition relating to fine-grain timestamps. This includes: 2004: XBD ERN 72 XBD ERN 73 XSH ERN 138 D2R: XBD ERN 96 XSH ERN 7 Action: Andrew to update those reports to indicate that the aardvarks are addressed in the separate Finegrain aardvark reports. ACTION 2007-02-11: Cathy to produce an unofficial draft showing examples of how a single pdf would look, including some limited examples of cross volume references. CLOSED A draft has been produced https://www.opengroup.org/austin/plato/protected/doc.tpl?CALLER=documents.tpl&dcat=&gdid=12834 Some discussion followed about the format of Chapter 1 in each volume, whether its necessary to have the Chapter 1's any more since we could move all the text to Chapter of XBD. It looks as if we can move much duplicated material to a single place. We need to ask the IEEE and ISO editors for their views. Action to raise with the IEEE and ISO Editors completed by Andrew as noted above 2007-02-02 Aardvark Bug Reports -------------------- We picked up on the aardvark for D2R from the face to face meeting http://www.opengroup.org/austin/docreg.html Austin/351 http://www.opengroup.org/austin/docs/austin_351.txt XSHd2 ERN 6 Accept Action: Andrew to ask Larry for his input on this item Action completed. Larry has responded that he is OK with the change. Action: Andrew update the rdvk report Austin/349 http://www.opengroup.org/austin/docs/austin_349.txt XBDd2 ERN 86 Accept as marked below Action: Mark Brown to draft some additional Application Usage Action completed. Add the following text at XSH page 1680, line 51542: Calls to wait() will collect information about any child process. This may result in interactions with other interfaces that may be waiting for their own children (such as by use of system()). For this and other reasons it is recommended that portable applications not use wait(), but instead use waitpid(). For these same reasons, the use of waitpid() with a argument of -1 and the use of waitid() with the idtype argument set to P_ALL, are also not recommended for portable applications. D2R waitid APP USAGE Calls to waitid() with idtype equal to P_ALL will collect information about any child process. This may result in interactions with other interfaces that may be waiting for their own children (such as by use of system()). For this reason its is recommended that portable applications not use waitid() with idtype of P_ALL. See also APPLICATION USAGE for wait(). Next Steps ----------- Andrew will update the aardvark reports with the latest inbound defect reports. Next teleconference meeting will be 22 March 2007. Note that the time will be at 15:00 UK local time since the US/Europe are still out of sync on summer time this next week. See http://www.opengroup.org/austin/. An IRC channel will be available for the meeting irc://irc.freestandards.org #austin irc://irc.freestandards.org/austin ICAL: http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/nvctqtstkuni3fab9k3jqtrt4g@group.calendar.google.com/public/basic XML: http://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/nvctqtstkuni3fab9k3jqtrt4g@group.calendar.google.com/public/basic