Minutes of the 27 May 2010 Teleconference Austin-483 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. May 28 , 2010 Attendees Andrew Josey, The Open Group Don Cragun, PASC OR Mark Brown, IBM, TOG OR Eric Blake, Red Hat Geoff Clare, The Open Group Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC OR Apologies Ulrich Drepper, Red Hat The last batch of interpretations has now completed its review period: Mantis bugs 196, 215, 216, 217, 218, 224 and 225 0000196 System Interfaces improved getsubopt example http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=196 0000215 System Interfaces Inconsistencies in pwrite() and write() errors http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=215 0000216 Base Definitions and Headers Control characters must have single-byte encodings http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=216 0000217 Shell and Utilities The "single subshell" rule for $(( is not sufficient http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=217 0000218 System Interfaces Inconsistencies in pread() and read() errors http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=218 0000224 Shell and Utilities awk -F and FS http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=224 0000225 System Interfaces ENXIO and 'may fail' http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=225 Only one item had a concern raised about it, and this was item 196 where Geoff had raised a concern about the wording. See mail sequence 13668 for details. It was agreed to make the suggested change. Andrew updated note 409 as suggested. Action : Andrew to finalize the interpretations Andrew noted that he also has a task to export all the finalized interpretations to IEEE sometime soon, and that we should look to see what can be done to automate some of the generation. We proceeded to look at the bug reports skipping those related to strange filenames, where we have a separate discussion going. (these included 243-245,248) 0247: Add nullglob (null globbing) support to shell's "set" and glob() OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=247 The general consensus is that ksh93 filename generation appears to have many useful extensions, and we should move in that direction. See http://www2.research.att.com/sw/download/man/man1/ksh.html [^] for man page details. New wording invited. Action: Andrew to write to Mr Wheeler / Mr Korn to invite wording for a future revision. 0249: Add standard support for $'...' in shell OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=249 The consensus was that $'...' should be added in the next revision, but we need to work on the details. In particular there were question marks over whether \e and \c should be included, and the behaviour of \000 (and \x00). 0252: dot should follow Utility Syntax Guidelines Accept as Marked http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=252 An interpretation is required. The standard states support XBD Section 12.2 is not required, and conforming implementations must conform to this. However, concerns have been raised about this which are being referred to the sponsor. Rationale: See Description section. Notes to the Editor (not part of this interpretation): At line 74031, add a new paragraph to the dot DESCRIPTION: The dot special built-in shall support XBD Section 12.2 (on page 215). after line 74152, add The exec special built-in shall support XBD Section 12.2 (on page 215). Next Steps ---------- The next call will be on June 3 at 16:00 UK time/08:00 Pacific and will continue on aardvark processing, and then if time allows some further discussion on the topic of unusual (non-portable) filenames. http://austingroupbugs.net See the calendar for the list of dialup numbers. An IRC channel will be available for the meeting irc://irc.freestandards.org #austin ICAL: http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/nvctqtstkuni3fab9k3jqtrt4g@group.calendar.google.com/public/basic XML: http://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/nvctqtstkuni3fab9k3jqtrt4g@group.calendar.google.com/public/basic