Minutes of the 18 Nov 2010 Teleconference     Austin-505 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.    November 19 , 2010

Attendees
Andrew Josey, The Open Group
Don Cragun,  PASC OR
Mark Brown, IBM, TOG OR 
Geoff Clare, The Open Group
Eric Blake, Red Hat
Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC OR

We discussed the status of the PASC Chair. We need to check on the
PASC procedures for who the approval group is, whether its just the
SEC or pasc-gen as well.  We also need to check who the voting
members of the SEC are. Once we have determined that its likely we
need to issue a call for nominations.

* We picked up on regular Bug processing

Bug 343 ftok cleanups OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=343

Action on Eric to develop a test program and run on several platforms.
Eric reported that this item is progressing but still open


Bug 346 ceil and floor OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=346

It was felt that most conforming architectures would not have a problem with this
changed, but some concern about the 370 architecture.
Action: Mark Brown  to investigate the IBM 370 architecture  and its
support of floating point arithmetic

Bug 347 ASYNCHRONOUS EVENTS on the sh page Accepted
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=347

This item has been tagged for TC1-2008. An interpretation is required.

Interpretation response

The standard states that the "default" behavior is required here ,
and conforming implementations must conform to this. However,
concerns have been raised about this which are being referred to
the sponsor.

Rationale:

See the "Description" section above.

Notes to the Editor (not part of this interpretation):

The WG recommends that the actions described in the "Desired Actions"
section be taken.


Bug 348 XRAT margin code descriptions for MX and MXX  Accepted
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=348

This item has been tagged for TC1-2008.


Bug 350 time() rationale out of date  Accepted
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=350

This item has been tagged for TC1-2008.


Bug 351 certain shell special built-ins should expand arguments in assignment context  OPEN

This has been discussed on the mailing list. There was 
some concern noted that the implementations of the shell we have
access to appear not to be in synchronization with the positions being put forward.
Additional notes have been added to this defect based on email traffic
and the item remains open.

Bug 352 behavior when assignments precede export Accept as Marked

This item has been tagged for TC1-2008. An interpretation is required.

Interpretation response

The standard states the requirements for the export special built-in,
and conforming implementations must conform to this. However, concerns
have been raised about this which are being referred to the sponsor.

Rationale:

The standard does not allow long-standing existing practice.

Notes to the Editor (not part of this interpretation):

At line 74290, add a sentence:

If a variable assignment precedes the command name of 'export' but
that variable is not also listed as an operand of 'export', then that
variable shall be set in the current shell execution environment after
the completion of the 'export' command, but it is unspecified whether
that variable is marked for export.


Next Steps
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The next call will be on Dec 2nd at 08:00 Pacific and
will continue processing defect reports.
It will be limited to 60 minutes only

http://austingroupbugs.net

See the calendar for the list of dialup numbers.

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