Minutes of the 9 January 2014 Teleconference Austin-639 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 11 January 2014 Attendees: David Clissold, IBM Don Cragun IEEE PASC OR Andrew Josey, The Open Group Eric Blake, Red Hat Martin Rehak, Oracle Geoff Clare, The Open Group Jörg Schilling Fraunhofer FOKUS Mark Brown, Canonical Mark Ziegast, Shware Systems Apologies: Richard Hansen, BBN David A. Wheeler, IDA Nick Stoughton, USENIX * General news Work on preparing a TC2-2008 draft is still in progress. At this stage there are 173 bugs to be edited to form the TC. * Outstanding actions +Bug 0000251: Forbid newline, or even bytes 1 through 31 (inclusive), in filenames OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=251 Don has an action to produce a proposal. +Bug 0000561: NUL-termination of sun_path in Unix sockets OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=561 Eric has an action to update the proposal. +Bug 0000573: Please add '+' to the portable filename character set OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=573 Joerg has an action to prepare a proposed change. +Bug 0000592: consistent use of struct timespec OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=592 Jim had provided additional information in bugnote 1627. This was discussed and Jim took an action to provide further information. +Bug 0000598: OH shading and new interfaces OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=598 Eric has an action to propose a new solution with self-contained headers. +Bug 0000517: EBNF support OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=517 Action on Joerg to look at this. +Bug 0000633: SIGEV_THREAD delivery renders many signal interfaces unsafe OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=633 We noted that feedback has settled down on the mailing list, and will discuss next session. +Bug 0000657: Conditions under which fmemopen() write a NUL to the buffer are insufficiently specified OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=657 Eric has an action to propose wording to clarify the behavior for fmemopen(), and also to contact the glibc developers to get their feedback. +Bug 0000658: Undefined/unspecified behavior clauses in description of open have race conditions OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=658 It was noted that there is some overlap with changes in TC1. Eric took an action to update the proposal to resolve the overlaps appropriately. +Bug 0000615: pthread_setcancelstate should be async-signal-safe OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=615 We now have reports on AIX and Apple. Jim to report back on whether pthread_cancelstate() is async-signal-safe on Solaris. Andrew to ask HP whether pthread_cancelstate() is async-signal-safe on HP-UX. +Bug 622 left open pending resolution of 615. http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=622 +Bug 0000672: Necessary step(s) to synchronize filename operations on disk OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=672 Geoff has a new proposed resolution in note 1618. Decided to solicit input from FS developers. Eric to go to Linux, David to AIX and Jim to Solaris. Jim has completed his action (see bugnote 1691). Andrew should chase HP and Apple for input. +Bug 0000663: Specification of str[n]casecmp is ambiguous reopened http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=663 Action on David to follow up with the IBM developers about the EBCDIC collation sequence. Bug 696 either NAME_MAX shouldn't be optional, or readdir_r() needs clarification http://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=696 Don has an action to propose a resolution. Bug 0000721: Internal storage vs static storage OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=721 This item is still open. * Current Business Previously we had asked all to review the Outstanding Business and identify any bugs that could be targeted for TC2. Don reported that had reviewed his assignments and concluded that none of them were suitable for inclusion in TC2. Bug 0000375: Extend test/[...] conditionals: ==, <, >, -nt, -ot, -ef OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=375 This is still left open due to discussions pending on the reflector. Bug 0000789: Add set -o pipefail OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=789 Action: Andrew to contact the ksh and bash maintainers to get their input on this bug. Completed after the meeting Bug 0000790: identifiers reserved for linkage by iso c OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=790 Action: Geoff to proposed the detailed edits to resolve this bug. Completed - see Bugnote 0002100 (included here) --start bugnote 2100-- I believe the following is the full set of changes needed to address the problems reported by the submitter and some additional problems noticed in the same section (2.2.2). On page 479 line 16236 change "cexmp1" to "cexpm1". On page 479 line 16237 change "cexmp1f" to "cexpm1f". On page 479 line 16238 change "cexmp1l" to "cexpm1l". On page 479 line 16250 change "ltime" to "ctime". On page 479 line 16242-3 delete "isblank" and "iswblank". On page 480 line 16261-6 delete "strtof", "strtoimax", "strtold", "strtoll", "strtoull", and "strtoumax". On page 480 line 16270-5 delete "wcstof", "wcstoimax", "wcstold", "wcstoll", "wcstoull", and "wcstoumax". On page 480 line 16280 delete "wcwidth". On page 480 line 16281 delete "wmem[a-z]*". On page 479-480 add the following to the table in the correct alphabetical position: btowc ctanh ctanhf ctanhl erf erfc hypot lgamma lldiv math_errhandling nextafter remainder snprintf va_copy vsnprintf On page 479 remove one of the two appearances of each of the following from the table: acosl asinl atanf atanh atanl catanh catanhf catanhl ceilf ceill ldiv On page 480 line 16286 add a new paragraph: Note: The notation [a-z] indicates any lowercase letter in the portable character set. The notation * indicates any sequence of zero or more characters that are valid in identifiers with external linkage. On page 475 line 16105 remove the following from the Complete Name column for (they are redundant as _t is a reserved suffix): int[0-9a-z_]*_t, uint[0-9a-z_]*_t On page 476 line 16144 insert: The notation [0-9] indicates any digit. before: The notation [A-Z] indicates any uppercase letter in the portable character set. On page 477 line 16177 change: Note: The notation [0-9] indicates any digit. The notation [A-Z] indicates any uppercase letter in the portable character set. The notation [0-9a-z_] indicates any digit, any lowercase letter in the portable character set, or . to: Note: The notation [0-9] indicates any digit. The notation [A-Z] indicates any uppercase letter in the portable character set. The notation [Xa-z] indicates the character 'X' or any lowercase letter in the portable character set. The notation [0-9A-Za-z_]* indicates zero or more occurrences of any of the following: a digit, an uppercase or lowercase letter in the portable character set, or an . --end bugnote-- Bug 0000791: missing cx shading for getsubopt Accepted http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=791 This is tagged for TC2-2008. Bug 0000792: better definition of thread lifetime OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=792 This item has been left open, as it needs work to address the points raised in the November email discussion. Bug 0000793: Regular Expressions: add REG_MINIMAL and a minimum repitition modifier Accepted http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=793 This item is tagged for Issue 8. Bug 0000794: Add a function series for formatted error messages OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=794 Action on Andrew to point out the following to the submitter: New interfaces require a sponsor. [Maybe the Base Working Group?] The DESCRIPTION section for the functions lacks a lot of detail, such as how the fmt argument is interpreted, and various side effects (see the perror() page). If the text in the proposal was based on an existing implementation's man pages, we may need a copyright release. (on the latter there has been a response in bugnote 2098) Next Steps ---------- The next call is on January 16, 2014 (a Thursday) Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) This call will be for the regular 90 minutes. http://austingroupbugs.net An IRC channel will be available for the meeting irc://irc.freenode.net/austingroupbugs An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below: http://posix@posix.rhansen.org:9001/p/201x-mm-dd password=2115756#