Minutes of the 14th January 2016 Teleconference     Austin-744 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group.  15th January 2016

Attendees:
   Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
   Andrew Josey, The Open Group 
   Eric Blake, Red Hat
   David Clissold, IBM   (partial)
   Joerg Schilling, FOKUS Fraunhofer 
   Richard Hansen, BBN 
   Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR

Apologies
   Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems
   Geoff Clare, The Open Group
   Roger Faulkner, Oracle, The Open Group OR
   Martin Rehak, Oracle  

* General news

Feedback has been received from ISO/IEC JTC1 on what is necessary
for balloting there. As well as producing the TC with ISO/IEC
markings we also need to generate a document summarizing
all the defect reports. Andrew has started this with 
a report from Mantis (that has 295 of the 299 defects in it).
This needs to be (a) edited down so it only has a relevant
summary for each defect report and (b) have the four
additional bugs added.

Andrew noted that he won't be able to get to this for some
time - and asked for a volunteer? Failing that he will disucss
with Geoff on his return when to schedule this.

We discussed the draft requirements for IEEE. Andrew took
an action to contact Michael Kipness to check on how
to circulate a copy of the 1003.1-2008 full standard with the TC
to aid reviewers.  Don also requested that we 
to add the change history to the merged draft.
Again we will check with Geoff on his return to obtain
an estimate for that (we will need to be confident that
we will retain all the defect reports through the ballot,
so we can fix the defect report numbers).


* Outstanding actions

( Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes -
to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes
from 26 Feb 2015)

Bug 0000887: printf and other functions appear many times in search results OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=887
Andrew is investigating.

Bug 0000900: add qsort_r        OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=900

The consensus was that its a good idea to add the suggested interface.
The usual requirements regarding a sponsor for a new interface
apply.

Action: Open Group OR , to ask the Base WG if they wish to sponsor
the additional qsort interface proposed here.

Bug  0000901: reserve _POSIX* shell option namespace for future use        OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=901

The forward plan for this bug remains as before:

  Richard: file a new bug report with a concrete feature that
  would use the _POSIX* namespace (as motivation for reserving
  set -o _POSIX*)

  All: debate the proposed feature.  If it's something we want,
  then revisit bug #901.  If not, close bug #901.



Bug 0000922: Implementations should be allowed to change/remove implementation-defined environment variables         OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=922

This item remains open. 

Action on Eric: propose wording for Issue 8 to add secure_getenv(),
and make it clear that deleting from environment without explicit
request is not compliant, but ignoring is fine.

For Issue 7 TC 2: Create new bug to add additional conditions on
what makes TMPDIR valid, vs. undefined behavior; also add future
directions to getenv() to mention secure_getenv()


* Current Business

Bug #249: Add standard support for $'...' in shell   Reopened
http://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=249

Andrew reported he had completed his action to contact Glenn
Fowler, but also he had received no response.
We will return to bug 249 on a future call.


Bug #947: Shell should not have $? == 0 for exit(256)
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=947

We picked up on this bug and had an extensive discussion
which is captured in the etherpad for the meeting.
A separate etherpad page is being maintained for this defect report
http://posix.rhansen.org:9001/p/bug947

We will return to this next week.

Next Steps
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The next call is on January 21, 2016 (a Thursday)

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) 

This call will be for the regular 90 minutes.

http://austingroupbugs.net

An IRC channel will be available for the meeting
irc://irc.freenode.net/austingroupbugs

An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below:

http://posix@posix.rhansen.org:9001/p/201x-mm-dd
password=2115756#