Minutes of the 7th July 2016 Teleconference     Austin-771 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. *8th July 2016

Attendees:
    Andrew Josey, The Open Group 
    Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
    Joerg Schilling, FOKUS Fraunhofer
    Geoff Clare, The Open Group
    Brian Utterback, Oracle
    Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev.
    David Clissold, IBM
    Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
    Richard Hansen
    Eric Blake, Red Hat

Apologies
    Martin Rehak, Oracle

* General news

We acknowledged the sad news of the passing of Roger Faulkner.
Don also reported the sad news that Ken Erickson (another Sun UNIX contributor)
has passed.

We send our condolences.


Andrew reported that IEEE has approved TC2 on June 30, and he is working
on the front matter, with a deadline to submit to IEEE o July 15th.
The target is to be have the TC published by the end of July.

Andrew has circulated draft reviewers and working group lists for feedback.

Andrew has sent in a query to our IEEE staff liaison
about ISO approval/publication .


Andrew also reminded all that the merged draft is available for review
including the change history:
https://www.opengroup.org/austin/restricted/2008tc2d4/Preview-Base2013+TC2D4.pdf



* Outstanding actions

( Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes -
to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes
from 28 Jan 2016)

Bug #249: Add standard support for $'...' in shell   Reopened
http://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=249
We will return to bug 249 on a future call.

Bug #953  0000953: Alias expansion is under-specified   Was Accepted as Marked
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=953
Richard has an action to propose new wording to discuss in a future telecon.

* Current Business


Bug 0000984: m4exit(0) after an error should result in non-zero exit status  Accepted
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=984 

We continued a discussion on this item, but no change was made to
the previous disposition.

Bug 0000986: Would it be worth investigating adding strlcpy(), strlcat(), wcslcpy() and wcslcat()?
http://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=986

A long discussion followed about the merits of these interfaces.
It was agreed to put this item on hold pending an action on
The Open Group OR to determine whether The Open Group would sponsor
the interfaces.

It was also noted that if we wanted to go ahead that the proposal lacks
enough detail, so we would need some contributed man pages as a starting point.


Mantis problems - we encountered some transient errors with the
mysql database during the meeting. We need to contact Mark Brown
to see about moving the application to The Open Group infrastructure
at some point. Andrew has emailed Mark.

Next Steps
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The next call is on July 14, 2016 (a Thursday)

Apologies in advance from Martin (for next week)

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) 

This call will be for the regular 90 minutes.

http://austingroupbugs.net

An IRC channel will be available for the meeting
irc://irc.freenode.net/austingroupbugs

An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below:

http://posix@posix.rhansen.org:9001/p/201x-mm-dd
password=2115756#