Minutes of the 4th August 2016 Teleconference     Austin-775 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Geoff Clare, The Open Group. 5th August 2016

Attendees:
   Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
   Geoff Clare, The Open Group
   Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems
   Joerg Schilling, FOKUS Fraunhofer
   Eric Blake, Red Hat
   Martin Rehak, Oracle

Apologies
   Andrew Josey, The Open Group 
   Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
   David Clissold, IBM
   Richard Hansen

* General news

No items of general news were discussed.

* Outstanding actions

( Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes -
to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes
from 28 Jan 2016)

Bug 0000249: Add standard support for $'...' in shell   Reopened
http://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=249
We will return to bug 249 on a future call.

Bug 0000953: Alias expansion is under-specified   Was Accepted as Marked
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=953
Richard has an action to propose new wording to discuss in a future telecon.

* Current Business

Bug 0001007: iconv function not allowed to fail to convert valid sequences  OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1007

We agree that much of what is being suggested would be good to add to
the standard in Issue 8, but before we can do that we need actual text
specifying what should be added to the standard, a sponsor for any new
interface(s), and general agreement from the parties who would need to
implement the additional requirements that the suggested text would
pass balloting.

We propose that such text be based on a subset of the current Solaris 11
implementation as described by their current iconv_open(3c), iconvctl(3c),
iconvstr(3c), and iconv(3c) man pages. These man pages can be found here:
iconv_open(3c): https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23824_01/html/821-1465/iconv-open-3c.html
iconvctl(3c): https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23824_01/html/821-1465/iconvctl-3c.html
iconvstr(3c): https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23824_01/html/821-1465/iconvstr-3c.html
iconv(3c): https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23824_01/html/821-1465/iconv-3c.html

Action: Eric to contact the glibc developers to get feedback on what
subset of the Solaris extensions they would be in favor of adding.
(Completed after the meeting: see bugnote 3327.)

Action: Geoff to work out the changes needed to add the common subset of
Solaris 11 and glibc extensions to iconv_open(), plus the Solaris 11
suffix //NON_IDENTICAL_DISCARD, as a starting point.


Bug 0001008: 1. clarify iconv(3) reset usage; 2. truly support Unicode character input  Accepted as marked
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1008

This item is marked for TC3-2008

Add to application usage as a new paragraph after P1110, L37364:

It is the responsibility of the application to ensure that, if the
output codeset has a locking-shift encoding, the output buffer is
returned to its initial shift state when conversion is completed. This
can be accomplished by calling iconv() with inbuf as a null pointer,
or with inbuf pointing to a null pointer, before calling iconv_close(). 


Next Steps
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The next call is on August 11, 2016 (a Thursday)

Apologies in advance:
   Nick Stoughton
   Eric Blake

Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) 

This call will be for the regular 90 minutes.

http://austingroupbugs.net

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