Minutes of the 14th September 2017 Teleconference Austin-836 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 15th September 2017 Attendees: Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR Joerg Schilling, FOKUS Fraunhofer Andrew Josey, The Open Group David Clissold, IBM Geoff Clare, The Open Group Martin Rehak, Oracle, The Open Group OR Richard Hansen, Google (30 minutes late) Apologies: Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC OR Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Eric Blake, Red Hat * General news We discussed the IEEE ballot status, which had now closed. The ballot results were as follows 82% return, 100% approval and 5 comments The comments are 1 mandatory editorial coordination approval confirmation, and four proposed updates to RFC references. A note below from IEEE: "The deadline to submit to RevCom for December's meeting is October 16. Therefore, you have some time to discuss the comments with the WG and determine if you would like to make the suggested changes. If so, you will have to respond to the comments and issue a 10 day recirculation of the document. " Andrew completed his action to analyze the possible impact of the changes (details below). Given the aim to have the 2017 edition be line number compatible with the 2016 edition, the recommendation is we do *not* make these changes at this time, and fold these into the next revision or TC. The balloter has noted that these these comments do not need to be satisfied. 1. RFC 2460 was obsoleted by RFC 8200 (published in July, 2017), becoming an Internet Standard (STD 86). Update the RFC 2460 reference to RFC 8200 (STD 86), and update the "available at" location information as well. Note: while there is no explicit reference to RFC 2460 or RFC 8200 (IPv6 specification), and it might be tempting to simply remove this reference, the same observation may also be made with respect to the reference for RFC 791 (IPv4). The IETF is no longer developing new protocol support for IPv4, hence this (IPv6) reference should remain, unless the IPv4 reference is also removed. 2.In References, RFC 2373 was obsoleted by RFC 3513, which was itself obsoleted by RFC 4291 - which should be the correct reference. Note that these are relatively important changes to the IPv6 Addressing Architecture. Update reference to RFC 4291. Please also update the "available at" location information as well as explicit references on: page 532, subclause 2.10.20.1, line 18718 and page 1139, line 38495 3. RFC 1886 was obsoleted by RFC 3596 (in October, 2003), which is now an Internet Standard (STD 88, as of May 2017) Update reference to point to RFC 3596 (STD 88). For all updated RFC references, please also update the associated "available at" location information, as well as explicit references at: page 760, line 25867 and page 934, line 31719 4. RFC 822 was obsoleted by RFC 2822, which was itself obsoleted by RFC 5322 - which should be the correct reference. While RFC 5322 is a successor to RFC 822, it did not succeed it (directly). Update the reference to RFC 5322. Also update "available at" location information and replace the text that currently explicitly refers to both RFC 5322 and RFC 822, located at: page 2965, line 98313 and 98314. Replace - "RFC 5322 (which succeeded RFC 822)." - with - "RFC 5322.” * Outstanding actions ( Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes - to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes from 28 Jan 2016) Bug 0000249: Add standard support for $'...' in shell Reopened http://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=249 We will return to bug 249 on a future call. Bug 0000953: Alias expansion is under-specified Was Accepted as Marked http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=953 Richard has an action to propose new wording to discuss in a future telecon. * Current Business Two items from previous weeks are still open: Bug 1061: Please add memmem() (and maybe wmemmem()) OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1061 Bug 1053: Add a "size" mode to stty(1) OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1053 This remains open. Bug 1151: Introduce new signal SIGWINCH and functions tcsetsize(), tcgetsize() to get/set terminal window size OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1151 We continued discussion on this item, notes were taken in the etherpad, we will continue next time. Bug 1063: missing specification for sh -h OPEN http://austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1063 We have started on this item and need to continue at a future meeting. Next Steps ---------- The next call is on September 21st, 2017 (a Thursday) Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) This call will be for the regular 90 minutes. http://austingroupbugs.net An IRC channel will be available for the meeting irc://irc.freenode.net/austingroupbugs An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below: https://posix.rhansen.org/p/201x-mm-dd username=posix password=2115756#